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1/350 Forrestal class
Posted by subfixer on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:17 AM
Why aren't there any decent models of that old class of workhorses- the Forrestals and improved Forrestals?? There were four ships of the former and three of the latter. Is it because they aren't as glamorous as the Nimitzes or that floating can of worms- the lower case "e". They sure as heck carried their weight in their lifetimes and deserve a decent rendering in styrene.
Thank you, I am now vented. I will go away quietly. Please pardon me. Phew!

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 16, 2004 1:07 AM
I have yet to see any FORRESTAL Class Carriers in 1/350 scale. I've seen them in 1/800 and a couple in 1/720. They did serve and continue to serve well in the Fleet.

Here's a listing:

FORRESTAL Class...

USS FORRESTAL CV-59
USS SARATOGA CV-60
USS RANGER CV-61
USS INDEPENDENCE CV-62

KITTY HAWK Class...

USS KITTY HAWK CV-63 (still on active duty)
USS CONSTELLATION CV-64 (decommed Aug 2003)
USS AMERICA CV-66

I agree with your point, they should be represented in larger scale plastic.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 16, 2004 10:22 AM
Well, I won't join you in bashing the mighty Enterprise... but I agree about the Forrestal, I would LOVE to have one in 1/350.
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Posted by subfixer on Thursday, September 16, 2004 10:34 AM
I'm not really bad mouthing the "E", when I call it a can of worms, I am referring to its mechanical condition. It is indeed a proud ship and worhty of praise. (Even though when I was serving onboard the Ranger, the "E" was usually in port somewhere showing off its showboat self while we and the other Pacific fleet carriers were carrying its load.)

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Posted by scottrc on Thursday, September 16, 2004 11:55 AM
I built the 1/720 Ranger for myself, since I to am from her. Not real crazy about that little kit. A 1/350 would be great. I remember the Ranger being tied in front of the Carl Vinson and we went aboard. You could tell which ship was out a sea for 9 months spinning circles off the coast of Korea and what ship was taking luxury cruises between SanDiego and Pearl Harbor.

I remember reading about the Navy's reason to retire the Forrestalls right after a SLEP. The reason was simple, "We wore them out!"

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 16, 2004 12:06 PM
Since we're on the topic of 1/350 carriers, I wouldn't mind seeing the following also in the large scale:

USS MIDWAY CV-41
USS CORAL SEA CV-43

Both have a very proud history and were know as "work horses". MIDWAY was the longest serving carrier on active duty to date (47 years) and was the Navy's first with an armored flight deck and the first surface vessel to launch a rocket (V-2).

Too bad the CORAL SEA was scrapped Sad [:(] but the MIDWAY is now a museum in San Diego Smile [:)].
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Posted by scottrc on Thursday, September 16, 2004 12:52 PM
Although I have now began a laborouse job of scaling a set of drawings to 1/350 scale and am now ordering raw material and detail sets, plus a Trumpeter Essex to completly dissect and morph in order to fulfill a crazy dream of building a post SCB-125 Essex. I wouldn't mind seeing a "good" modernized Essex class carrier as well in 1/350. This way we can have a whole series of carriers. Ahh, to do a "Yankee Station" diorama with both the Oriskany and Forrestall.

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Posted by Boatshop on Thursday, September 16, 2004 1:53 PM
Lee, I sure wish there were. I was on the Forrestal in the early 60's. I built one model of her, when I learned I was to be stationed on her after graduating from EN-A school. I sure would love to do another model of her, as I have first hand knowledge of how she was built. Maybe some day soonWink [;)] After all, she was the first super carrier.

Jim Q What isn't tried, won't work

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 16, 2004 2:27 PM
A dio of "Yankee Station" would be awesome to view...might as well float the ships on a small pond.Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by subfixer on Friday, September 17, 2004 5:47 AM
Anybody else a member of the "Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club" out there?

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Posted by Winnie on Friday, September 17, 2004 11:05 AM
Thought the Big-E was a modified Forrestal?

By the way did you guy's read the book Sailors to the end? great read!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 17, 2004 1:14 PM
The ENTERPRISE is a Class all by herself, literally. Her design incorporated some characteristics of the FORRESTAL Class. She's the Navy's first nuclear aircraft carrier and from the keel up, she's her own.
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Posted by Boatshop on Saturday, September 18, 2004 1:16 PM
Winnie, you are right about the book Sailors To The End. It was a good read. It's been said that when the times get tough, the tough get going. That sure was the case with the sailors onboard, on that fatefull daySad [:(]

Jim Q What isn't tried, won't work

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Posted by Stefaan on Sunday, December 22, 2019 5:35 AM

15 years later. Still no Forrestal ?

 

Boo Hoo

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, December 22, 2019 10:51 AM

Or Midway. I'm in the middle of a project using the lower hull of the smaller Revell Forrestal. I'd forgotten that it's a pretty basic kit.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, December 22, 2019 11:44 AM

Stefaan

15 years later. Still no Forrestal ?

 

Boo Hoo

 

Combat flight ops from the Class in Vietnam, Grenada, Lebanon, Libya, Desert Storm, Afghanistan, Iraq... helping to win the Cold War... 

but if had served in the WWII DKM.... we’d probably have at least two kits now...

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, December 22, 2019 12:12 PM

Isn't that the truth!

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Sunday, December 22, 2019 3:14 PM

Ya Know!

     The "Middie" or Midway to those who served elswhere was a solid old girl. My destroyer tried to sink her. We Failed. But ten months later I got transferred to her !

 I remember thinking all the crew could buy cars overseas and bring them  home on her. Just stack them three high in the empty Hangar deck!. And put the crated Honda Motorcycles on the sponsons!

 Naw, I spent many good days on her. She felt very secure and safe to me. Could wake you from a stuperous sleep when doing Plane ops though !

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Sunday, December 22, 2019 3:16 PM

Oho! Does that  include any tin-cans blasting away there?

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Posted by raider-hall on Wednesday, December 25, 2019 2:23 PM

Trumpeter has the Kitty Hawk and Connie in both 1/350. I am taking a Kitty Hawk 1/350 hull and convert it into CVA-62.

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Posted by garyrbarter66@gmail.com on Friday, April 30, 2021 3:08 PM
Did you ever do this? I am wanting to build the Indy,
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Posted by LonCray on Tuesday, May 4, 2021 7:29 AM

If I could develop a superpower, it would be to mind-control whoever makes the decisions for Trumpeter into putting out the Forrestals, the America, the angle-deck Midways, more angle-deck Essexes and the Ford in 1/350 plastic.  

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Posted by Model Monkey on Saturday, May 15, 2021 11:32 AM

Islands and other parts for two Forrestals and several Essexes are available in most popular scales, including 1/350.  Essex islands include WWII fit, Korean War fit, and Vietnam War fit.

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, May 15, 2021 3:21 PM

So Steve I guess the question is, can you print a 1/350 Forrestal hull to put the islands on?

 

Bill

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Posted by BootBoyx2 on Saturday, May 15, 2021 4:02 PM
I would buy a 1/350 Forrestal in a heartbeat ,regardless of cost. My father served on the maiden voyage of her in the early 50's. Please correct me if i'm wrong but I think she was the first to have the angled deck.

Be careful of what you ask for, you just might get it.

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Posted by Model Monkey on Sunday, May 16, 2021 4:55 PM

GMorrison

So Steve I guess the question is, can you print a 1/350 Forrestal hull to put the islands on?

Bill

Unfortunately, no, a 1/350 CV hull is far too big to be affordably 3D-printed given present technology.  The 1/350 Forrestal islands were requested by modelers who intended to kitbash a Trumpeter Kitty Hawk into a Forrestal.  Obviously, that's a big conversion project.  But the islands help.  And for early-mid Forrestal configurations, 5"/54 double-dome "Frog-eye" mounts are available, too.  The islands and mounts sell more often than one might expect.  A 1/350 USS Independence CV-62 island and two mount sets sold this weekend. For a time, another vendor offered a 1/350 Forrestal flight deck to help with conversions.

Generally, the Forrestal islands sell best for the Revell 1/542 scale kits.

Best 1/350 Essex island sellers:

WWII: USS Yorktown CV-10, April 1945 Yamato sinking appearance.
Korean War:  USS Kearsarge CV-33.
Vietnam War:  USS Hornet CVS-12, Apollo 11 recovery appearance.

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, May 17, 2021 9:50 AM

Steve,

I was a little tongue-in-cheek there, but a very informative reply.

The deck idea is a good one, seams could easily be dealt with.

Another bit that would be helpful for the 1/542 FIDs would be a replacement bulb for the bow.

 

Bill

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Posted by Straycat1911 on Monday, May 17, 2021 1:29 PM

BootBoyx2
I would buy a 1/350 Forrestal in a heartbeat ,regardless of cost. My father served on the maiden voyage of her in the early 50's. Please correct me if i'm wrong but I think she was the first to have the angled deck.
 

Actually it was the unmodified Essex class USS Antietam. As a result of experience gained, Forrestal was the first of the super carriers to have one. 

https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2017/08/17/first-super-carrier-forrestal-class/

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Posted by LonCray on Tuesday, May 18, 2021 8:02 AM

Pretty sure Forrestal was already building when Antietam and then Oriskany proved the angle-deck concept.  I also think Forrestal was the first supercarrier built; USS United States was supposed to be but was cancelled on the ways. 

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, May 18, 2021 9:40 AM

The Midways were sometimes referred to that way.

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