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American Civil War Ironclad Colors
Posted by devinj on Friday, October 22, 2004 7:45 PM
I know the general consensus of modelers when painting a U.S. ironclad from the Civil War is that they were overall black. How accurate is this? I mean, come on, you've got a poorly ventilated iron warship in southern waters, and you paint it BLACK? It seems to me that a white or gray would be better. I can see black for the night runs past Vicksburg, but on other occasions, it doesn't make sense.

Right now I'm specifically concerned with USS Chickasaw during the Battle of Mobile Bay. I'm doing the Thoroughbred 1/700th scale kit of her. The instruction say she was light gray, most stuff I can find on the web (paintings, etc.) say the traditional black. Anyone have any input?

-Devin
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Posted by jtilley on Friday, October 22, 2004 8:45 PM
I don't claim any real expertise on this subject, but I have read a little about it. I have the impression that the documentation about color schemes of Civil War vessels is, in general, pretty vague. The written documents rarely mention colors, so researchers are left with two types of sources: contemporary oil paintings and photographs (all of the latter, of course, being in black and white). The photos that exist (and there aren't a lot of them) seem to suggest that most of these ships were painted a very dark color - if not black, then mighty close to it. I think I've seen some reputable models of Confederate ironclads with grey hulls, but I can't recall seeing a model, painting, or photo of a Union turret ironclad that wasn't black.

Some years ago I got hired by the Monitor Marine Sanctuary to design a paper model of the Monitor for distribution to kids. I had quite a few conversations with the historians and underwater archeologists who had studied that ship intensively. They were pretty firmly of the opinion that she was painted black above the waterline and red below - the red being a rather bright shade of red lead primer.

That's about all I can offer. Maybe some Civil War experts out there can contribute something in greater detail.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 28, 2004 6:54 AM
I'm no expert but I recall reading in Clive Cusslers book The Sea Hunters that a least one CSS riverine ironclad was painted brown.
Is that of any help?
Dai
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Posted by devinj on Friday, October 29, 2004 11:18 AM
Thanks guys. Yes, all info helps. I totally buy that the USS Monitor was black, never seen anything to dispute that. And yes, there were several color schemes for Southern ironclads (blue gray, light gray, brown, rust red, black).

I'm going to just have to make a judgement call on this. I painted the USS Chickasaw in primer gray, which is very close to what the light gray I'd assume she'd wear as a final color is, and I don't really like it. Unless I can find something that definitely says she was in gray within the next week, I'll go with a very dark gray to light black.

Thanks!

Devin
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Posted by jtilley on Thursday, November 25, 2004 1:50 AM
I'm adding this "reply" to bring the thread to the top of the list. A new query from a newcomer relates to it.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 12, 2005 9:26 PM
Just so happens that I live in Columbus Georgia, the home of the new CIVIL WAR NAVAL MUSEUM-this is a world class museum of the Smithsonian type-with full sized displays of warships, surround sound battle exhibits-you are inside the casemate of a Union ship in battle, you hear the shot and shell hitting the armor and the deck shakes and shifts as you start to ship water. There are actual samples of the Monitor's armor on display and excellent models of the Virginia and Monitor to examine-the hulls above the waterline of both Confederate and Union ships are BLACK-matte black.
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Posted by devinj on Sunday, March 13, 2005 5:02 PM
Funny to see this post still around and active!

I finished my little diorama. I went with a very dark gray for teh Chickasaaw, and gray for the Tennessee:

http://www.devinjpoore.com/models/mobile.htm

-Devin
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