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good cheap wood sealer
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 23, 2004 1:03 PM
You guys were a great help when I had questions about using wood masts and yards on a plastic ship. I did my first one and I love the wood.

I need your help again. I used dullcote on the wood before painting it and was not very happy with its sealing ability. What is a good wood sealant to use so that I can get a good smooth paint finish?

Thanks to you all for being so helpful to us not-so-expert modelers. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all.

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Posted by Woody on Thursday, December 23, 2004 2:43 PM
For woodworking nothing beats good old elbow grease. Spray with clear lacquer, sand with fine grain sandpaper. Repeat this as many times as required to acheive the level of finish your looking for. I also use thin CA glue on balsa to make parts. You end up with a very stable part that takes paint great.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 23, 2004 5:24 PM
I use sanding sealers from the RC section of the hobby shop. There are several brands out there, and all work basicly the same. Put it on, sand it smooth with a light grit paper, and re-do till your satisfied, then paint as usual. Dosen't take much time either, and works on any type of wood.
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  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Thursday, December 23, 2004 11:22 PM
The first step is to use the right kind of wood. As we discussed before, birch dowels are far preferable to oak ones. Oak has an extremely coarse grain that, on model-sized parts, is extremely difficult to fill completely. Balsa is worse. The most commonly-available modeling wood (other than balsa, which I don't recommend for serious scale ship modeling) is basswood. It's a pretty good wood for painting; it's easy to carve, and the grain, though a little fuzzy, is fine enough to respond to a good filler. The Lowe's store a few blocks from my house carries a supply of nice poplar, which isn't a particularly attractive wood for clear finishes but is great as a basis for paint.

If you're willing to look a little harder, very hard, close-grained woods like maple need virtually no filler before painting. And the prize woods among scratchbuilders are boxwood, pearwood, and holly, which have scarcely any visible grain at all. But they're harder to find, and expensive.

When furniture and cabinet makers confont this problem they generally use "paste filler," which is a thick, rather muddy-looking substance that's rubbed into the grain before the finish coats are applied. That's pretty brutal stuff for model building, though. The "sanding sealer" sold in the flying model airplane section of the hobby shop seems to be good stuff - though I haven't tried it myself. On poplar, which I use for "sea" bases for waterline models, I've gotten good results with artist's gesso (from the art supply department). Two coats of that stuff, which is a thick, creamy white, water-soluble liquid applied with a brush, do the trick. (I learned the hard way, though, to put it on both sides of the board. If it's applied to only one side, the board will warp.) Paint stores and home centers also sell primers that work nicely. Be warned, though: be sure the primer is compatible with the paint you're going to use for the finish coat.

Any of these tricks, in conjunction with some super-fine sandpaper and elbow grease, will work fine. Good luck.

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