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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 5:54 PM
Hello Dai,

Maybe I mislead you. I would not throw out any book. I sold them to a used nautical book dealer. I still have a considerable library neatly arrayed on a bookshelf.

Al Blevins
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 24, 2005 7:24 PM
Al Bevins
Don't throw out your old books! Do what I did, build a purpose built library (with a snooker talbe).
Dai
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  • From: Lacombe, LA.
Posted by Big Jake on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:50 PM
Would a log qualify as the first "boat"? Wink [;)]I would think that it was at the front of the line. Whistling [:-^]

Jake

 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 2:37 PM
I have to eat my words. I thought the book I was thinking of was by Lavery but couldn't find it on Amazon. Mr. Tilley is 100% correct, THE book to reference is "Ship Models: Their Purpose and Development from 1650 to the present" by Lavery and Stephens. I hope I didn't cause you to rush off to Amazon and order Boyd's book, though I thought it pretty good too. That's the problem with "reducing" one's library, you lose a lot of good reference material.

Al Blevins
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Posted by jtilley on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 12:18 PM
There are quite a few books about ship modeling, but I know of only four that really concentrate on its history. The oldest is called The World of Model Ships and Boats, by Guy Williams. It appeared, if I remember right (as I frequently don't these days), in the mid-seventies. It was a pretty nice picture book with generally reliable text, but awfully sketchy in its coverage.

Norman Boyd, whom Mr. Blevins mentioned above, wrote a relatively small work on the subject about twenty years ago. I don't recall the title, but I can't recommend it. It was full of mistakes and invalid generalizations; much of it was devoted to promoting the work of a handful of professional ship modelers whom the author happened to know. (All of them were good modelers - but there were plenty of others.)

Mr. Boyd's second work (the one Mr. Blevins cited) is far superior in terms of content and accuracy. It's essentially a "coffee-table book," with all that implies: fine illustrations, beautiful reproduction, large format, and pretty superficial text.

The book that looks at first glance like the definitive work on the subject is Ship Models: Their Purpose and Development From 1650 To the Present, by Brian Lavery and Simon Stephens. The authors both work at the National Maritime Museum in Greenwich, and know what they're talking about. My big reservation about the book (a reservation that I've heard several other Americans express) is that it's intensely Anglo-centric. The vast majority of the text and illustrations deals with British subjects - mainly from the NMM. An appendix does list "major" model collections in other countries. (As for those in the U.S., the authors acknowledge the museum at the "United States Naval College" in Annapolis. AARRRGGGHHH!!!) It's best considered an excellent catalog of the model collection in the NMM - arguably the best, and almost certainly the biggest, model collection in the world. But the world is still waiting for a really authoritative general history of the ship model.

As it happens we've taken up the topics of Viking ships and ancient galleys recently in this forum. The galley discussion is under the title "Zvezda Greek Trireme," and the Viking ship one under "Building a wooden ship." Bottom line (including a generous dose of personal opinion, with which other forum participants may well disagree): there's one good, reasonably accurate Viking ship kit. It was made by Revell in the 1970s, and is no longer generally available. As for Greek and Roman vessels - this is a topic I don't know much about. Several plastic kits purporting to represent ancient galleys are on the market, but I have reservations about them. Scholarly thinking about what those ships looked like has undergone some major changes in the past two or three decades, largely due to the construction of a full-size, thoroughly researched replica under the auspices of the Hellenic Navy. I have the impression that most (probably all) of the model kits representing such ships were designed before that project - but I may be mistaken. The photos of the replica (its name, I believe, is Olympius) sure don't look much like any of the kits I've seen.

Hope this helps. It's a fascinating subject, and there's room for a great deal more to be written about it.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 10:43 AM
Hello jamnett,

I once had a book on the history of model ships called " The Model Ship: Her Role in History" by Norman Napier Boyd. It was very complete and well illustrated. A search on Amazon.com showed several used copies available.

Al Blevins
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origins of ship modeling
Posted by jamnett on Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:26 AM
Due to freezing rain here in SW Washington state, I'm ice bound and can't drive to work. Ahhhh. I came across my old Ships in Scale mags and I was just looking at the March/April 2002 issue which features an Egyptian royal galley. I'd like to read some ship modeling history. I read somewhere one time about ship models being found in the tombs of pharaohs. I'm looking for tips/suggestions for sources on the web, or in print, of the history of ship modeling. Has any manufacturer ever produced kits covering very old subjects other than the Viking ships and the Greek and Roman Biremes and Triremes?
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