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Eastern Express Trinity House Lightship- 1/144 or 1/110?

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  • Member since
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  • From: Indiana, USA
Eastern Express Trinity House Lightship- 1/144 or 1/110?
Posted by cassibill on Friday, January 28, 2005 9:44 AM
While researching for the 1/144 Scale Kit List, I came across the mention of the Frog kit and the later Revell AG production of the Frog kit. At least a couple places state that Eastern Express had possession of the molds between Frog and R-AG and had also produced the kit. If this is the case then it is in 1/144 as I've seen it listed multiple times. However there is one exception, it was listed as 1/110 in one spot and a pic of the box backed that up. That is an odd scale, I'm aware of only one other kit (Glencoe's Spirit of St. Louis-caveat emptor!!) in that scale, could be more though. But if it is the same mold then the box is wrong. If any one knows about it let me know! The Revell (and thus Frog) offering is 38.5 cm long if that helps.
Thanks!!

cdw My life flashes before my eyes and it mostly my life flashing before my eyes!!!Big Smile The 1/144 scale census and message board: http://144scalelist.freewebpage.org/index.html

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    May 2003
  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Friday, January 28, 2005 11:36 AM
We're talking here about an old, old kit from the "fit the box" period. In those days manufacturers were more interested in packaging their kits in standardized boxes than in making them to recognized standard scales.

My best guess is that the current distributors don't really know or particularly care what scale the thing is. I wouldn't be inclined to trust either of those numbers. I suspect the only way to determine the actual scale of the model would be to get hold of one, get hold of the plans of the original ship, measure both, and do the arithmetic. That method will work IF the proportions of the kit are right. If not, measuring the length, height, or breadth will give different results.

Unfortunately ship model kit manufacturers tend to take extremely cavalier attitudes regarding scale. A few days ago I posted some comments about Continental European sailing ship kits. On that occasion I went to the Model Expo website and looked up three Cutty Sark kits. In each case the website listed the scale and the overall length of the model. Doing the arithmetic established the length of the real Cutty Sark as either240', 287'6", or 297'6" - depending on which kit one picks. I suppose one could get into an arcane discussion of how the measurements were taken (do they include the jibboom? do they include the spanker boom?), but the bottom line is that the manufacturer doesn't really care. In fact I frequently wonder whether some of those manufacturers really understand the concept of scale. Caveat emptor.

Incidentally, there's at least one other kit on the market that's on 1/110 scale (and I can testify that this one really is): the Revell H.M.S. Bounty. The Revell harbor tug Long Beach (a delightful little kit recently reissued by Revell Germany) and the Revell Santa Maria are mighty close; the crew figures that come with them are the same size as those in the Bounty kit.

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  • Member since
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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by cassibill on Friday, January 28, 2005 12:24 PM
The South Goodwin was 41.8 m long the kit is 38.5 cm. Must be 1/110 then. It sould only be off 1/2 cm and 41.8 m was probably rounded. Thanks.

cdw My life flashes before my eyes and it mostly my life flashing before my eyes!!!Big Smile The 1/144 scale census and message board: http://144scalelist.freewebpage.org/index.html

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