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    November 2005
USS Constitution
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 12, 2005 9:44 AM
I am planning on getting a Constitution kit. I am leaning towards the Model Shipways. I would like the BlueJacket but it seems quite pricey. Does anyone have any experience with the Constitution by Constructo, Mamoli, or another manufacturer? I have built the San Francisco by A. Latina and it came out great and didn't have too much trouble with the "European" kit with all of its flaws and strangeness.

Another question, I did not paint the San Francisco, but varnished the natural woods, yet I see paint kits for the various models advertised. Was I supposed to paint it? I am sure I will have to paint the Constitution with its Black and White Hull.

Last question, I see the Model Shipways comes without sails. I used the pre-sewn sails in the San Francisco and it looks real nice. Should I consider a "sailed" version, ie. Constructo or buy third party sails? I am not really ready to sew my own sails. Maybe I should avoid sails completely with the Constituion.

Thanks for any responses.
  • Member since
    May 2003
  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Saturday, February 12, 2005 11:07 AM
Welcome to the forum! If you're interested in sailing ships, you'll find this is a fun place. It's inhabited by some very strange people, but most of them are relatively harmless.

We've hashed out the topic of wood ship kits in this forum several times; the thread headed "First wooden ship" contains several highly opinionated comments, many of them from yours truly. I'll confine myself here to one suggestion: if you want to build a scale model of the Constitution from a wood kit, buy either the Bluejacket or Model Shipways version. The biggest differences between them are scale (the Model Shipways one is bigger) and method of hull construction (the Bluejacket one has a solid hull; the Model Shipways one is based on the plank-on-bulkhead system). Both are fine kits. They will, if the instructions are followed, produce genuine scale models. The Continental European plank-on-bulkhead kits, unless they're extensively modified, will not.

We also took up the question of sails recently, under the heading "real cloth sails." There are as many opinions about sails as there are ship modelers. My personal preference, if I were doing a model of the Constitution, would be to build it without sails or with furled sails. The thread I just mentioned contains some diverse views on the subject, and some tips on sailmaking.

You also might want to check the thread headed "Color Differences between USS Constitution and USS United States." It wandered away from the original topic into a couple of fascinating posts about the changes the ship's appearance has undergone during her career.

I've moved those three threads to the head of the forum, so they ought to appear on the list just above or below this one. Reading them may take a while, but I think it will be worthwhile. Just don't take us Olde Phogeys too seriously, or let our ramblings and rantings intimidate you. Like I said earlier, most of us are eccentric but harmless. Ship modeling, for most people, is a hobby - and a great one. The only thing you're "supposed" to do with it is have fun.

Good luck. The Constitution is an extremely challenging subject.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

  • Member since
    January 2005
Posted by ggatz on Monday, February 14, 2005 8:04 AM
Just to add a bit..

The MS kit is based on her current configuration, so accurate painting/ finishing is more of a realistic option in this regard....

You also might want to take a look at the practicum offered by Bob Hunt over at his Ship Modeling College.. I have heard good things about Bob's work..

http://www.lauckstreetshipyard.com/practicums.html#Sophomore%20Course
To a dog, every day is Saturday. ' Roger Miller '
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