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Why is there no Coast Guard Ship Recognition Guide?

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Why is there no Coast Guard Ship Recognition Guide?
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 14, 2005 4:38 PM
I have Janes Warship Recognition Guide, and its quite interesting, but it leaves out a gigantic area of naval combat ships!

Nearly every country in the world has a small fleet of modestly armed patrol ships. From Norways mighty K/V Svalbard armed icebreaker, to Icelands small but effective patrol ships, to the USA's big cutters, it's a fascinating area of ship design.

One could also put the Border Guard units in this group. Finlands huge armed hovercraft they use to patrol their northern borders, for instance.

Why are there no recognition guide style books on this stuff?

-Ben.
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  • From: Upper left side of the lower Penninsula of Mich
Posted by dkmacin on Monday, March 14, 2005 7:25 PM
Maybe because the US Coast Guard paints it's ships in a bright white (or red or black)with the tell tale "racing stripe" on the hull and the big black letters US Coast Guard?
Big Smile [:D]
In reality it's most likely Jane's feels like the rest of the worlds navies and just do not appreciate the smaller cutters that can. . .and do every day.

Don
I know it's only rock and roll, but I like it.
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  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Monday, March 14, 2005 10:14 PM
The reference book The Ships and Aircraft of the U.S. Fleet, published by the Naval Institute Press (with new editions every two or three years) does contain a good section on the Coast Guard. I highly recommend that book. It's expensive, but for model building purposes a good compromise is to look for a used copy of an earlier edition. It obviously won't be a hundred percent up to date, but it will contain tons of useful, reliable information.

The Coast Guard website, www.uscg.mil , also contains lots of stuff of interest to the modeler. The section maintained by the Historian's Office is especially valuable. Among the recent additions to it are copies of some official painting directives from different periods.

This question reminds me of an interesting little experience I had once. Another good series of reference books is Conway's All the World's Fighting Ships. The first volume to be published was the one covering the period 1860-1905; it covers the Confederate Navy, but doesn't mention the Revenue Cutter Service, the Life Saving Service, or the Lighthouse Board (the predecessors to the Coast Guard). The second volume, covering 1905-1922, does have a good, brief section on the Coast Guard - as do the volumes covering the later periods. About twenty years ago I got contacted by Conway to write the U.S. section for another volume in the series, this one to cover the years 1815-1859. I asked the editor over the phone whether I should include the Revenue Cutter Service; he said "yes, absolutely." I asked him why it hadn't been mentioned in he 1860-1905 volume. He gave me, I think, an absolutely honest answer: "We forgot."

That Conway volume on the years 1816-1859 never got published. I'm not quite clear on the reason; I think it had something to do with the drawings, which were done by an excellent draftsman from Poland, somehow becoming a casualty of the chaotic events in Eastern Europe during the 1990s. But it would have covered the Revenue Cutter Service.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by dkmacin on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 5:33 AM
Just remember these famous words:
"Would to heaven I had a navy."
George Washington, President of the USA
1794
The Naval Act was passed by congress in 1795
Alexander Hamilton got the Revenue Cutter Service financed in 1790
(This is fun pointing out to brother in laws who were in the navy)
Donald Canney has a book titled
US Coast Guard and Revenue Cutters 1790-1935

Don
I know it's only rock and roll, but I like it.
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