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How do you make water?
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 2:52 PM
What is the easiest and cheapest way to make water for waterline ship models???
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Posted by Jeff Herne on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 3:58 PM
Chopped from a previous article I've written...JH

Acrylic gel medium...Acrylic gel medium is available from any art supply store. I prefer the clear, but you can experiment with different colors. I prefer the Liquitex brand, it comes in a large toothpaste-like tube, and has the consistency of toothpaste. The method of application is the same whether you require a smooth surface or choppy, rough seas.

I start by painting the base an overall flat blue-green. I then glue the hull of the ship to the base, and build the model, using the base as working platform. This wworks out real well, as it prevents my handling of the ship itself, and eliminates my big fingers crushing the PE and getting fingerprints on the model. Once the model is completed, I touch up any areas on the base with the blue-green base. Depending upon the ship, I sometimes mask the side of the hull with blue low-tack masking tape, this prevents any gel medium from getting onto the hull. Squeeze a small amount of gel onto the base, and even it out, leaving enough gel to cover the base surface. Work the gel up to the hull of the ship, and around the bow. A little heat from a hair dryer will speed up the process, the gel will turn an opaque white, like half-dried white glue. At this point, go back and reapply gel to the areas you want to build up, bow waves, wakes, etc. Go after the gel again with the dryer until it turns opaque white. If you desire rough, choppy seas, stipple the gel with a flat paintbrush. If you get the gel on the hull of the model, it can be removed with a cotton swab and some rubbing alcohol. For heavier seas, you may have to go back and repeat the last few steps over until you get the desired results. Gel can be built up upon itself as many times as you require.   With repeated applications of gel some dramatic effects can be achieved, such as bow waves and heavy seas.

Once the gel has dried and stippled to your liking, it’s time to start painting and drybrushing the water. Apply a thin coat of the blue-green base coat to the top of the gel, dry-brush a lighter blue on top of the base coat, then drybrush a blue-white or green-white (depending on which ocean you’re in) along the tops of the waves, the bow wave, along the hull, and in the wake. The amount of white you add is obviously proportional to the speed you ship is making. A lot of white along the hull and wake implies you ship is under way, while little or no white implies your ship is either at anchor or all-ahead-dead-slow... I recommend experimenting with this method and developing your own preferences. Once the gel is dried completely, drybrush the 'water' with clear gloss or Future Floor Wax to give you the shine effect.

The beauty of gel meduim is its ease of application, the ability to build up layers, and the lack of odor, heat, and its ability to take paint. It's is easy to use, mistakes are easily repaired, it dries rock-hard, isn’t sticky like resins,  and is relatively inexpensive, with a single tube costing $10-$15. Once tube is enough to do anywhere from 5-8 1/700 ships with average size bases, depending on how crazy you decide to get with your waves, etc.
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Posted by DBFSS385 on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 6:15 AM
I always thought you could add 1 part H to 2 parts O.. LOL
Sorry the temptation was too much.............Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Evil [}:)]
Be Well/DBF Walt
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Posted by Big Jake on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 6:42 AM
I take a much simpler route, I just go out to the Mississippi River and grab a bucket.......

 

 

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Posted by Jeff Herne on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 9:29 AM
Just what we need, dueling comedians...lol.

J
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 11:10 AM
Make water? Drink a lot of beer.

O.K. O.K. I will go away.

James Smile [:)]
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Posted by schulerwb24 on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 12:10 PM
Couple of questions:
1. This dries "rock hard", what is it's longevity? Will it crack, seperate, turn yellow or shrink with age?

2. Is it temperature sensitive over time? Will storing it in a cold or hot envirenment harm it after it is dried?

3. Any restrictions on what kind of base to use, what does it not work on?

4. Anything special need to be done to the base before applying?
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Posted by bigjimslade on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 2:50 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by butchy

I always thought you could add 1 part H to 2 parts O.. LOL
Sorry the temptation was too much.............Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Evil [}:)]


Just burn hydrogen in the presence of air and you get water.
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Posted by Jeff Herne on Thursday, May 19, 2005 8:51 AM
Schuler...I've got models that are 20 years old that haven't showed a single sign of drying, cracking, peeling, athlete's foot, dry mouth, cramps, insomnia, etc... Acrylic gel medium is basically a liquid plastic, and we all know how long plastic lasts before it starts to break down.

Everything is temperature sensitive...it just depends on how much temperature you apply. In this case, no, it's not effected by normal temperatures, but your model certainly will be.

It attaches to anything, wood, metal, family pets, so if you want to use glass as a base, it will stick. It will obviously adhere to a rough surface like wood much better.

The only thing special that needs to be done to the base is to paint it a dark blue-green. This gives the medium a depth of color once it dries.

Jeff

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 23, 2005 12:22 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by butchy

I always thought you could add 1 part H to 2 parts O.. LOL
Sorry the temptation was too much.............Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Evil [}:)]
Umm.. two parts H to one part O. H2O Dyhydrogen Monoxide

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Posted by Jeff Herne on Monday, May 23, 2005 8:50 AM
Always the chemist, eh Tom??? You hanging around here with us now???

Jeff
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Posted by Winks on Monday, May 23, 2005 10:12 AM
Little Tommie was a chemist;
Little Tommie is no more.
What he thought was H2O
Was really H2So4.
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Posted by DBFSS385 on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 12:17 PM
Tommy voted for Barry AUH2O back when he ran against Johnson . The name sounded SO fine to him.Smile [:)]Smile [:)]
Be Well/DBF Walt
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Posted by Jeff Herne on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 4:17 PM
That's just wrong...funny...but wrong!! Laugh [(-D]

J
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 27, 2005 6:00 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Jeff Herne

Always the chemist, eh Tom??? You hanging around here with us now???

Jeff
Nah, my "chemistry" days are long over - three day-long hangovers aren't my cup of tea any longer. Dead [xx(]

Hey, I was nice to see you again at MosquitoCon. Too bad we were both so busy that we couldn't shoot the sh*t for awhile. NJIPMS is not the same without you.

This forum looks to be a nice place to hang out. It'll be better when my 1:350 Hood is finally released. Big Smile [:D]

Best regards,

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Posted by MBT70 on Saturday, May 28, 2005 12:55 PM
You guys are all wet ... LOL!
Life is tough. Then you die.
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