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                        Takao or Myoko, what say the people???

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                        Jeff Herne
                        • Member since
                          January 2003
                        Takao or Myoko, what say the people???
                        Posted by Jeff Herne on Thursday, May 19, 2005 1:42 PM
                        Ok folks, I've decided to start framing a hull in 1/200 scale. I had started Takao last year, but the hull was destroyed in my move from NJ to WI.

                        As a result, I'll be starting another one pretty soon.

                        Will it be a Myoko Class or Takao Class in 1/200 scale?? You choose. I'll build both eventually... Big Smile [:D]

                        Myoko Class (IJN Haguro in 1936)


                        Takao Class (IJN Takao in 1938)


                        I'm torn, as I really want to do both at the same time...ugh.

                        Jeff
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 19, 2005 2:31 PM
                        id go for the Takao class..i like the super structure layout over the Myoko class cruisers.thats a hard choice..i think the true answer from a ship builder is "BOTH".build both and you can't go wrong.Approve [^]

                        Im getting my grubby hands on the Ise..great model to build..
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 19, 2005 5:28 PM
                        I like the looks of the Myoko class. The way the IJN raked their funnels always looks sexy to me. Are there any reviews of this kit?
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                        therriman
                        • Member since
                          January 2003
                        • From: Central MI
                        Posted by therriman on Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:05 PM
                        That's a tough choice Jeff. My first response would be Both. But I'd say go with the Takao first. Since you've already started one the first part should go rather quickly.

                        Yea, right!!!!
                        Tim H. "If your alone and you meet a Zero, run like hell. Your outnumbered" Capt Joe Foss, Guadalcanal 1942 Real Trucks have 18 wheels. Anything less is just a Toy! I am in shape. Hey, Round is a shape! Reality is a concept not yet proven.
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                        MBT70
                        • Member since
                          March 2004
                        • From: Pacific Northwest
                        Posted by MBT70 on Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:46 PM
                        Well both ... sure ... but I'd start with Myoko. It's the funnel thing like Raverdave said ... so very Nipponese. They are otherwise quite similar ....
                        Life is tough. Then you die.
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                        Jeff Herne
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                          January 2003
                        Posted by Jeff Herne on Friday, May 20, 2005 8:50 AM
                        Sigh, still no definitive choice...

                        Raverdave, these aren't kits...these will be scratchbuilt. Right now, just a set of plans and a big stack of plastic sheet and brass rod.

                        The fittings for these models will most likely be resin knock-offs of 1/200 fittings from the Nichimo Kagero and Akizuki Class DDs, and the 1/200 Yamato, all of which I have in the collection. The balance of parts will most likely come from Konishi in Japan, including some of the photoetch. What I can't get, I'll scratchbuild or etch myself.

                        Jeff
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 20, 2005 12:01 PM
                        Takao class would be my choice.
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                        Umi_Ryuzuki
                        • Member since
                          April 2003
                        • From: PDX, OR
                        Posted by Umi_Ryuzuki on Friday, May 20, 2005 12:14 PM
                        Mi-yoh-ko
                        I guess the superstructure feels a bit less chunky..

                        You are gonna keep a log here on the steps as you build aren't you?
                        I am sure everyone would love to tag along and see the steps to a scratch build.
                        Nyow / =^o^= Other Models and Miniatures http://mysite.verizon.net/res1tf1s/
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                        Jeff Herne
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                          January 2003
                        Posted by Jeff Herne on Friday, May 20, 2005 8:12 PM
                        Of course Umi, besides, you'll be needing something to escort those LSTs, right?? :-)

                        I think at this point I'm going to Takao...just because I have everything in hand already with regards to research materials.

                        Jeff
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                        MBT70
                        • Member since
                          March 2004
                        • From: Pacific Northwest
                        Posted by MBT70 on Friday, May 20, 2005 8:57 PM
                        Well ... you can still do that raked forward stack becasue Takao was rebuilt in 1940 and not only got the sexy stack, the bridge was hardened into an angular armored shell with a very distinctive profile. With further upgrades, by 1944 she was also loaded with sixty 25 mm pom poms and a suite of twin DP 5-inchers.
                        Life is tough. Then you die.
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                        Jeff Herne
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                          January 2003
                        Posted by Jeff Herne on Friday, May 20, 2005 9:54 PM
                        I know...but at this point, I'm thinking either Maya as an AA cruiser, or Chokai 1938.

                        As far as Myoko is concerned, it's most likely going to be Nachi at the time of her loss.

                        Jeff
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                        Umi_Ryuzuki
                        • Member since
                          April 2003
                        • From: PDX, OR
                        Posted by Umi_Ryuzuki on Friday, May 20, 2005 11:06 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by Jeff Herne

                        Of course Umi, besides, you'll be needing something to escort those LSTs, right?? :-)

                        I think at this point I'm going to Takao...just because I have everything in hand already with regards to research materials.

                        Jeff


                        Thanks Jeff.
                        Everyone loves to see how easy scratch building can really be.

                        And I actually already have escorts for the LST, Just nothing as big as the Takao...

                        http://groups.msn.com/ModelersAndHobbyForum/japaneset103lstbuildup.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=857

                        Big Smile [:D]
                        Nyow / =^o^= Other Models and Miniatures http://mysite.verizon.net/res1tf1s/
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                        DURR
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                          July 2013
                        Posted by DURR on Monday, August 29, 2005 11:02 PM
                        well jeff it has been a while since this post started how far have you gotten in the last 3 months
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 4:52 AM
                        Looking at the pics again, I have to say that the IJN didn't really believe in having a lot of freeboard.
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                        Jeff Herne
                        • Member since
                          January 2003
                        Posted by Jeff Herne on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:40 AM
                        Well, Takao has been framed, and the frames for Myoko have been cut but not assembled. I got a catalog from Konishi in Japan with all sorts of 1/200 fittings, so I have to place an order with them so I actually outfit these two beauties.

                        FSM projects have gotten into the way, along with several house-projects, so I haven't had much tiome to actually work on them, but I'm hoping these long, cold Wisconsin winters will give me some time to get caught up.

                        Jeff
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                        scottrc
                        • Member since
                          December 2003
                        • From: 37deg 40.13' N 95deg 29.10'W
                        Posted by scottrc on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 2:35 PM
                        Man, it must suck when work interferes with your hobbyLaugh [(-D]

                        I have to build models for work too, but they are of concrete form strippers, boat trailers, and cement hoppers, not exactly what I have in mind for exciting topics to build.

                        Why is it that I can paint a 25'x45' garage in one afternoon but it takes me two weeks to put one coat grey on a 1/350 battleship? Ah, homeownership.
                        The garage looks great, all white, but I had to be carefull and resist not adding blue stripes and making it a dazzle scheme.

                        Best wishes on getting some time this winter.

                        Scott

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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:19 PM
                        Jeff:

                        I would do the one that is the hardest, and that will take a ton of time!! I hope that helpsEvil [}:)]
                        Yoyr buddy and fellow N.Y'er

                        Dick Wood
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                        diggeraone
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Ozarks of Arkansas
                        Posted by diggeraone on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:26 PM
                        Takao Jeff,Takao Jeff.Digger
                        Put all your trust in the Lord,do not put confidence in man.PSALM 118:8 We are in the buisness to do the impossible..G.S.Patton
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 7:50 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by scottrc



                        Why is it that I can paint a 25'x45' garage in one afternoon but it takes me two weeks to put one coat grey on a 1/350 battleship? Ah, homeownership.
                        The garage looks great, all white, but I had to be carefull and resist not adding blue stripes and making it a dazzle scheme.



                        Scott




                        Big Smile [:D]
                        Oh man that makes me laugh ! I am currently having a new home built and only the other day caught myself wondering what a boot stripe would look like on the brickwork.Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:25 AM
                        Takao class as Chokai.Chokai has history as a killer-four heavy cruisers in quick time at short range on Aug 9 1942 in an action that was worse than Matapan.Go with the winner.
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                        DURR
                        • Member since
                          July 2013
                        Posted by DURR on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 8:42 AM
                        both i think it is easier to do 2 at a time i always work with 2 at a time
                        you know do the first hull set aside to dry start second hull set aside work on first set of guns etc.....
                        i built 8 japanese zeros like that an finished in no time flat
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