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Squaring up Gun Ports
Posted by torybear on Saturday, May 21, 2005 8:53 AM
I'm having a little trouble in squaring up the gun ports for my Fair American. Any ideas that may help? Thanks. Smile [:)]
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Posted by jtilley on Saturday, May 21, 2005 9:19 AM
I'm assuming you're working on the Model Shipways kit. I haven't built it, but I can offer some general suggestions.

The first step is to establish exactly what the gunports are supposed to look like. In a ship of that period they may or may not actually be square. The Fair American, as I recall, has substantial sheer in her maindeck, meaning that some of the guns - especially those in the stern - sit on a slight but noticeable slope. I'd have to look at the original model of the ship to be sure (as you probably know, the kit is based on a model in the Naval Academy Museum - not on contemporary plans), but I suspect the sides of the ports are vertical and the tops and bottoms are parallel to the deck. In geometric terms, the midships ports, and maybe the ones at the bow, probably are squares, but the after ones are rhombuses. That needs to be noted carefully.

Another point. The sheer plan (side view) on the plans inevitably distorts the proportions of the gunports. The sharp curvature of the bow, for instance, makes the foremost ports look considerably skinnier in the side view than they actually are. There are exceptions to every rule, of course, but in general all gunports for a given size of gun should be of identical width. The only reliable guide to the width of the gunports, though, is the deck plan.

Maybe the trickiest part of this job is to draw the actual shape of each gunport, precisely and accurately, on the surface of the planking. Once that's done, I can't suggest much beyond the careful use of drill and files - and frequent checking.

I doubt that this has helped much. Maybe some other Forum member who's built the kit can do better than I can.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 21, 2005 4:43 PM
I have not built it but I use a piece of scrap wood with the required angle cut into as a filing guide. I built extra so I can cut/file away as required.
According to Clay Feldman's guide for a scratch built of the FA -the plans do not show many true square ports they all appeared unique. Make a jig of the final shape and pin it in place then carefully file/cut away until flush.
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Posted by jtilley on Sunday, May 22, 2005 6:52 AM
What cardensb says makes sense. The paper template idea would be a good way to ensure that (a) all the gunports are the same width, and (b) the ones on the port and starboard sides are identical.

When it comes to the actual shape of the individual gunport, remember how it's built. Generally speaking (there are exceptions) the sides of a gunport are formed by the ship's frames (or timbers that are fastened, and parellel, to them). Therefore the sides of the port are vertical. The top and bottom, generally speaking, are parallel to the deck. (That's not universally true either; sometimes they're parallel to the sheer of the hull planking, which may or may not be parallel with the deck.) I'm pretty sure the Fair American follows the usual pattern: sides vertical, top and bottom parallel to the maindeck and to each other.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 3, 2005 7:25 PM
Hello:

I've read in several books that gunports are squared up with the deck and other books that say they are squared up with the keel. I guess it depends on what author you read.

Might want to check out the following website:

http://shipmodeling.net

Good luck,
Lukekoda
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