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New kit alert!
Posted by jtilley on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 6:14 PM
According to the Squadron Mail Order site ( www.squadron.com ), Aoshima is releasing two 1/150 sailing ship kits: the Japanese 4-masted sail training barques Nippon Maru and Kaiwo Maru.

I have no idea what the quality of these kits will be. The ships in question have never struck me as particularly attractive; they have big, glass-fronted bridge structures that, though I'm sure they're safe and utilitarian, are completely at odds with the appearance of a traditional sailing vessel. And the prices of the kits are pretty staggering. The fact remains, though, that (unless they're reissues, which I don't think they are) these are new sailing ship kits. Fellow sailing ship kit lovers (all twelve of you) - let us rejoice. Maybe our hobby isn't quite dead after all.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by schoonerbumm on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 9:12 PM
There are many facets to beauty. The Cutty Sark is truly a beautiful work of art. The Victory has her own brutish beauty. But to anyone who has seen her sail, the Kaiwo Maru is simply AWESOME. I sailed in the 1999 Tall Ships parade on a schooner, right behind the KM (got us on Japanese TV) and will never forget her. She dwarfed the Eagle and her teutonic sisters by almost 25%.

We had some of her crew aboard during the party rounds... none of us speaking
Japanese or them English, we resorted to charts to communicate home towns, waypoints on our transits, etc. Our new friends returned the favor and gave us the grand tour, along with a crewman from the Hawaiian Chieftain who spoke Japanese.. (during which we got to see ourselves in the Japanese newscasts). It was definitely not traditional.. more like a bloody floating hotel!

Traditional or not, I'm getting out the checkbook!



Traditional she's not....

Alan

"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." Benjamin Franklin

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Posted by Umi_Ryuzuki on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 9:48 PM
The RC guys are kind of jazzed at the prospect of conveting the
Hermann Marwede SAR boat.

http://www.revell.de/typo3/en/products/model_kits/hermann_marwede_dgzrs/index.html?&L=1
Nyow / =^o^= Other Models and Miniatures http://mysite.verizon.net/res1tf1s/
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Posted by scottrc on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:16 AM
I'd be impressed if they'd convert the Nippon Maru to RC.Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Umi_Ryuzuki on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 12:10 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by scottrc

I'd be impressed if they'd convert the Nippon Maru to RC.Big Smile [:D]


The Santa Maria has been done...
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=167183&page=3&pp=15

As I am fond of saying, "Anything can be made RC". Wink [;)]
Nyow / =^o^= Other Models and Miniatures http://mysite.verizon.net/res1tf1s/
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Posted by scottrc on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 1:30 PM
Ok Aimee, now you got me thinking of another project, like I REALLY need another project.Big Smile [:D] But I do like the challanges that an RC 1/96 or 1/200 scale plastic sailing ship would impose.Wink [;)]

Scott

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Posted by millard on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 6:45 PM
Jtilley These are reissue of Imai kits.Aoshima bougth most of Imai's molds.I've got the Imai Nippon Maru in my stash.Very nice kits lots of detail.Like there 1/350 counter parts but a lot more detail.Aoshima been releasing kits on Hobby Links Japan.But they are pricey over $150.00. I haven't seen Squadrons price yet.
Rod
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Posted by jtilley on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:37 PM
Rod - Well, that's kind of depressing. I thought they looked vaguely familiar, but I couldn't recall that Imai had issued them. I do remember that the two Marus featured in the Imai 1/350 series.

On the other hand, if Aoshima starts reissuing the other sailing ships in the Imai line that will be good news indeed. I'd especially welcome the return of the Cutty Sark and the Napoleon.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by Big Jake on Thursday, June 30, 2005 8:21 PM
The line had a Susquehanna (sp) in 1/150th. also.

Jake

 

 

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Posted by millard on Thursday, June 30, 2005 10:10 PM
Jtilley They already released the Napoleon last year.Right now it is out of stock till some time in July.It goe for 9,800 yen ($150.00) from Hobby Link Japan. I pickk one up last year great kit.On there list of ships the Cutty Sark will be reissued.But when I don't know.
The one I'm excited about is both The Nippon Maru and Kaioh Maru will be reissued in 1/100 scale with full crews.The 1/100 scale have not been around for along time. You can't even find them on Ebay.At that scale they will be well over 3 ft. long because the 1/150 scale is over 30 in. But I don't know when. I'm going to the IPMS Nats in three weeks.i'll ask the HLJ guys if they know when.
Rod
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Posted by jtilley on Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:41 PM
Now that Jake mentions it I do remember the Susquehanna. (Don't feel bad, Jake - I had to look up the spelling.) My knowledge of those Imai kits is pretty sketchy. They appeared right about the time I got out of college (and quit the hobby shop job that had put me through grad school), and my museum curator's salary wasn't enough to support a large-scale kit addiction. I think the only ones I actually bought were the Cutty Sark and some of the 1/350 school ships.

I had an interesting experience regarding the Imai Cutty Sark kit. Looking it over in a hobby shop, I was quite impressed with it - and told the shop proprietor so. He sort of rolled his eyes tolerantly and showed me a set of cast "bronzed metal" trailboards for the Cutty Sark that one of those Italian plank-on-bulkhead companies had manufactured. They were distorted in proportions, out of scale, and in general caricatures of the real thing. When I expressed the opinion that the Imai plastic castings were more realistic, the proprietor - and several other customers who were in the shop - looked at me like I was crazy.

The interesting thing about that conversation was the venue: Maritime Models of Greenwich, a few hundred yards from the real Cutty Sark. These people had walked past the ship on their way to the hobby shop. But they were so smitten with the notion that "wood kits are better than plastic ones" that they apparently had lost their ability to look at the products objectively.

I have a very vague recollection of seeing a box of 1/100 Japanese sailor figures in an Imai box at a hobby shop in Charlotte, back in about 1985. I wonder if that was the "crew" for one of the big Maru kits that Millard mentioned.

It seems a little odd that the same company would do the same ships in both 1/100 and 1/150 scales. The ones in the Squadron ad, under the Aoshima label, are both listed as 1/150. On the other hand, one is considerably more expensive than the other. I wonder if the more expensive one just might be on 1/100 scale.

Those prices are mind-boggling. On the other hand, the market for such kits, as we all know too well, is tiny. Those who want these kits probably would be well advised to grab them while they're available.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by jamnett on Friday, July 1, 2005 12:34 AM
I was just wondering if the Aoshima Golden Hind was also a former Imai release. I've only seen it at one site, MegaHobby, and I checked out at least a dozen on-line dealers a few months ago including Squadron. I can't imagine a kit only being available through one site.

I believe the MegaHobby ad states the scale is 1/72, and something like 22" length. I tried to find some kind of review or commentary about it but struck out. I wanted to know more about it before plunking down $160 + S&H.

This is good news for us sailing ship builders who prefer larger scales. I'd love to see them release a big Cutty Sark, even if it is a risk to my sanity doing all that detailed rigging. These Aoshima kits are a bit pricey, but consider that some of theTrumpeter kits along with some good PE are going cost just as much or more.

Ron

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Posted by jamnett on Friday, July 1, 2005 1:01 AM
I was comparing costs with the 1/150 Nippon Maru. It lists for about $90 at Hobby Link Japan. The 1/100 kit with crew figures is $260.

At the HLJ site it states that Aoshima bought Imai's assets when they went bankrupt in 2002. I've heard a lot of positive comments about Imai kits on this forum in the past. Too bad they went belly up.
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Aoshima "Napoleon" back in stock at HLJ
Posted by rayers on Monday, July 18, 2005 5:09 PM
Just checked HobbyLink Japan today and the Napoleon is now listed as being in stock for 9,800 yen (about $89). I'm still waiting hopefully for the Susquehanna. It's been a long time since I saw one on eBay, and it went for more than $100 as I recall.

Here's a link to the Napoleon:

http://www.hlj.com/product/AOS31735

If anyone hears of the Susquehanna coming out, or gets the Nippon/Kaiwo Maru and doesn't want the crew sets, please let me know. The crewmen would be great for the 1/96 Kearsarge I'm working on.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 1, 2005 1:28 PM
Say what happened to the soon to be kit of HMS HOOD that only a few months ago all the pundits said was on the horizion?????
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