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Feeling really, really screwed right now ...
Posted by mfsob on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 8:54 PM
Finished with the 1/700 Victory ship I'm building for my Dad, getting ready to settle it down on the hardwood base on a couple of dollops of 5-minute epoxy and ... it wobbles! Not a little, but about 15 degrees from side to side. If I prop it up vertical there is a noticeable gap on one side at the waterline.

I have no clue how to deal with this - the model is completed and all the little bits are lightly tacked on with white glue. Sanding it smooth seems to be out of the question, and it never, ever occurred to me to check this before I started construction Banged Head [banghead] ...
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Posted by DURR on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 4:21 AM
make some water to mount it on and the build up a crest of the wave a bit in the sides
it May hide it
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 5:44 AM
Sign - Oops [#oops]Rather than a flat wooden base you could make a stand and "sit" the Victory in that. The only problem is that this will inevitably hide some of your hard work. If you still are keen on a solid base I would drill some holes in both the base and hull to accept some piano wire pegs and use these to both aid alignment and strengthen the joint. If the deck is detachable (unlikely I guess at this stage) then you could mount captive nuts in the model and bolt the model to the base from underneath (the bolts passing all the way through the base and into the retained nuts i.e countersink the bolt holes on the bottom of the base so that the base still lies flat). It in part depends upon the weight of the model which method is suitable but I do think that relying on a couple of dollops of epoxy was asking for trouble in the long run. Maybe this setback is a blessing in disguise and you did say you didn't want this build to finish right?Mischief [:-,]Laugh [(-D]Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]
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Posted by mfsob on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:38 AM
I forgot to mention, it's a waterline kit. Sorry about that.

Since this is my first attempt, I don't feel confident enough to try modeling water, especially at this late stage.
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Posted by scottrc on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:48 AM
I had the same issue with a waterline model that I mounted on a piece of actual decking. Putting a "water" scene around it was out of the question per the owner. I did a method like the one above in that I mounted the ship with self tapping sheet metal screws. I still had a gap. but the ship was now secure. I then filled the gap with acrylic gel, so no sanding needed to be done, and touched it up to match the boot stripe.


Scott

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Posted by Jeff Herne on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 8:27 AM
You can do water...it's easy, really...

Here...read this:

http://www.steelnavy.com/water.htm

It's not as bad as you think. It requires a bottle of inexpensive craft paint in a sea blue/green color, and a tube of acrylic gel medium. Some washes and simple drybrushing when it's dry and you're good to go.

Jeff
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Posted by mfsob on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 9:40 AM
Thanks for the suggestions! I guess the larger question is, Do I feel lucky?
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Posted by DURR on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 10:49 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by mfsob

Thanks for the suggestions! I guess the larger question is, Do I feel lucky?


you should feel lucky you have a dad that is still aroundMy 2 cents [2c]
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Posted by Imperator-Rex on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 12:40 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Jeff Herne

You can do water...it's easy, really...

Here...read this:

http://www.steelnavy.com/water.htm

It's not as bad as you think. It requires a bottle of inexpensive craft paint in a sea blue/green color, and a tube of acrylic gel medium. Some washes and simple drybrushing when it's dry and you're good to go.

Jeff


Easy???? Yeah!! [yeah]
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Posted by mfsob on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 1:24 PM
I think, factoring everything in, and seeing Mr. Murphy grinning insanely in the corner, just begging me to do one more thing to this model, I am going to level it up as best I can with the epoxy and leave it at that, secure in the knowledge that my Dad's eyesight is not all that great and he won't notice.

But NEXT time ... yeah, everything is going to get checked before construction starts!
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Posted by Jeff Herne on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 4:16 PM
Imperator Rex,

Yes, it's easy...you paint the base dark blue, then you squeeze out the gel medium like toothpaste, spread it around until you're happy with the way it looks, then you plop the model down in the middle and let it dry for 24 hours. Then you come back and dry-brush some whitecaps and a wake, then brush-paint it with Future if you want it shiny.

Doesn't get much easier my friend!

Jeff
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 9:10 PM
I'm no expert, but I think I'd leave the model alone and fool around with gouging out the base until it sits still and without a gap. Buying or making a new base if you ruin it won't be as bad as screwing up the ship. When are we going to see this vessel?
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Posted by Imperator-Rex on Thursday, August 25, 2005 6:21 PM
Mmmmm... looks easy and simple on paper, but doing it right is something else, especially if you have absolutely no experience on this matter like me! The paintings would probably be the greatest difficulty, I guess. But heck, one has to try new techniques! I'll give it a chance once I'm done with my next waterline kit (most likely the Hawaiian Pilot). Thx for the link & the encouragement Jeff Bow [bow]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 25, 2005 9:29 PM
Modelling sea is great fun and is easier than lots of modelling tasks. Give it a go you won't be disappointed!
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