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Link to a very interesting model of HMS Victory

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Link to a very interesting model of HMS Victory
Posted by gleason on Saturday, September 17, 2005 12:23 AM
FYI:

Spotted this on a another list:

Build of HMS Victory in 1/96 scale. The site is in German, but the photos are self-explanatory, and technically this model is made out of wood!

http://www.kartonmodellbau-elite-club.de/wbb2/thread.php?threadid=85

Enjoy!!!

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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Saturday, September 17, 2005 2:15 AM
Wow! Very very cool scratchbuild, low budget and excellent appearance considering the material used!
~Aric Fisher aric_001@hotmail.com
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 17, 2005 11:38 AM
well that's humbliing! Christ that's fantastic
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 17, 2005 11:53 AM
David_I was curious and checked this out. I was impressed by that 'forest' of cannon barrels-wonder if he had to drill them out? I'm tempted to try Verlinden's kit on the Victory-although it's only a bit of gun deck and a cannon. I think they also have a Nelson figure too.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 17, 2005 6:44 PM
Where in the world does someone get the plans to do something like that????

Ron
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Posted by jtilley on Saturday, September 17, 2005 8:20 PM
My meager German is far too rusty to translate the text on that site; maybe another Forum member can help us out. But it looks to me like the model is being built from a kit. Note the exploded view drawing sitting under the hull in one picture, and the part numbers printed on some of the hull components.

Perhaps the builder - obviously an extremely skilled and patient modeler - designed and printed all the parts on a computer. But paper modeling from kits is an old, much-respected hobby in Continental Europe - especially Germany. The commercial warship kits from companies like Wilhelmshaven are downright mind-boggling. I wouldn't be the least surprised if some company of that stature is producing a Victory.

I'd be interested to see how he handles the spars and rigging.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by gleason on Saturday, September 17, 2005 10:45 PM
Quick note to translate from German to English:

goto Google Language tools
http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en

and look at the bottom of the screen.

There, you will see Translate a web page where you can select the
language(s) you want.

Then paste in url you are working with, and the website will be translated
for you...

<Gleason>

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Posted by gleason on Saturday, September 17, 2005 10:53 PM
You are correct!!!

Checkout:
http://forum.drydockmodels.com/viewtopic.php?t=2606&start=0

where I found the original posting.

In the thread, it states the following [ some material deleted ]:
t's actually a kit published by a company called Shipyard.

<Gleason>

Originally posted by jtilley

My meager German is far too rusty to translate the text on that site; maybe another Forum member can help us out. But it looks to me like the model is being built from a kit. Note the exploded view drawing sitting under the hull in one picture, and the part numbers printed on some of the hull components.
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Posted by gleason on Saturday, September 17, 2005 10:58 PM
Since I brought up the Dry Dock Models site, I think you would be
interested in their gallery section where enthusiasts can post and
view images.

There are some excellant HMS Victory ships [ wooden and plastic ] for
your viewing pleasure.

I have saved many of the images for future reference while I workon my Heller HMS Victory kit...

Enjoy!!!

<Gleason>
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 18, 2005 1:03 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by gleason

Since I brought up the Dry Dock Models site, I think you would be
interested in their gallery section where enthusiasts can post and
view images.

There are some excellant HMS Victory ships [ wooden and plastic ] for
your viewing pleasure.

I have saved many of the images for future reference while I workon my Heller HMS Victory kit...

Enjoy!!!

<Gleason>

you mean you've not finished it yet? lol
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 18, 2005 5:19 AM
The answer is in the title, it is a Shipyard 1/96 scale model, Shipyard is a carton models company from Poland.
Michel
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Posted by jtilley on Sunday, September 18, 2005 10:25 AM
What always amazes me about those paper model kits is the ingenuity with which the designers get around the problems of compound curves. A ship's hull (or, for that matter, an airplane's fuselage) is full of them - and it's physically impossible to reproduce a compound curve with paper. Yet those designers somehow manage to break up the compound curves in ways that, except at extremely close range, make the model look ok.

I wonder how these Shipyard folks deal with copper sheathing. Is the modeler going to cover the entire bottom of the hull with individual copper-colored paper rectangles? Actually that would look pretty convincing.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 18, 2005 11:13 AM
I noticed some new images posted-wonderful work. I also realized what an ornate 'head' the Victory had. Looks like they had a 4-seater going, hope that was enough.
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Posted by gleason on Sunday, September 18, 2005 1:41 PM
In addition to the Dry Dock Model site I mentioned in a previous message, you may also find the following of interest:

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/misc/hms/victory-hankster/victory-index.html

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/misc/sail/victory-72-mr/victory-main.html

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/misc/sail/victory-600-ph/ph-index.html

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/misc/sail/victory-100-bc/bc-main.html

http://lazuli.com/projects/Victory/

http://www.shipmodelers-forum.net/shop18.html

http://www.dockyards.co.uk/

http://www.stvincent.ac.uk/Heritage/1797/Victory/


As mentioned previously, use the Google Language Tool site to translate
these sites from French or German to English
http://pageperso.aol.fr/surcouf19/victory_galerie.html

http://danklein.free.fr/VICTORY.htm

http://modellversium.de/galerie/artikel.php?id=621
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 18, 2005 7:15 PM
These models are available worldwide, I am curious, and want to give them a try. Take a look at this lionk, to see the variety of available models :
http://www.e-papermodels.com/index.php?language=en
Michel
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Posted by lolok on Monday, September 19, 2005 8:04 AM
I have seen the shipyard kits here in Warsaw. The Victory book costs about $20 !!!!!!!! It's laid out in such a way that you can substitute wooden parts for the card if you wish.A Polish company produces wood masts and brass cannons to replace the kit parts.I bought them to replace the Heller guns, Shipyard produces quite a few large ship kits.Having seen some of the results at shows here I can vouch for the quality and the dedication needed to come up with a gem. Under the communists plastic kits here were rubbish so paper was the way to go.There are so many clubs here dedicated to just card models.Check out any german model shop site and you should find them easily. www.nntmodell.com they carry Shipyard
Jim Ryan Ex-Pat Limey in warsaw.Poland. " MENE,MENE,TEKEL U PHARSIN"
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