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Posted by seasick on Saturday, October 8, 2005 7:14 PM
Australian, Spanish, and Taiwanese Perry class frigates were built new for their owners. None of those ships are retreds. Old Perry frigates sold to other countries from the United States are of the "short hull" type. These ships can not operate SH-60 class aircraft.

FFG-9 sold to Poland 6-28-2002
FFG-10 sold to Turkey for spare parts 1-5-1998
FFG-11 gifted to Poland 3-15-2000
FFG-12 sold to Poland 2004
FFG-13 sold to Turkey 4-10-2002
FFG-14 sold to Portugal 2004
FFG-15 sold to Turkey 4-4-2003
FFG-16 sold to Turkey 1-12-1998
FFG-19,20,21 sold to Turkey 9-1-2000
FFG-22 sold to Egypt 3-31-1998
FFG-23 sold to Egypt 9-18-1998
FFG-24 to Bahrain 9-15-1996
FFG-25, 26 To Egypt 1996
FFG-27 to Turkey 10-1999
FFG-30 Turkey 1999

Big Smile

Notes on USN Perrys:
The Standard missile (SM-1MR) has been removed from service in the USN at the end of 1993. The Standard missile was found to be ineffective against current and maturing anti-ship cruise missile threats. The missile has been withdrawn and the Mk13 launchers have been deactivated in place. The launcher arm has been removed, and the SPG-60 director conponent of the STIR fire control system have been removed. While the Harpoon missiles have been removed SH-60 helecoptors have been modified to fire Penguin anti-ship missiles. Penguins can be stored in magazine positions modified to hold the Mk60 lightweight torpedo. It is still slated for RAM missiles to be fitted to Perrys that are scheduled to stay in service past 2012.

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Posted by mfsob on Saturday, October 8, 2005 5:42 PM
I should always check before I type - Spain and Poland got some of the Perry Class, as well as Australia, and Taiwan bought some and apparently also built some similar to the Perry.
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Posted by Duke Maddog on Saturday, October 8, 2005 5:28 PM
Revell/Germany still offers the "Rommel" in 1/700 scale plastic. I've seen several at my LHS in the last two weeks.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 8, 2005 12:41 PM
Just to answer mfsob's question: no, the German navy did not purchase the old Perry-class frigates - as far as I remember (but maybe I'm wrong here) they were sold to Turkey.

American-build ships in the German navy:
- Fletcher-class destroyers (1958-1980)
- Adams-class destroyers (1968-2004)

seasick's Hamburg-class was the sole and only German after-war destroyer design - they served from 1960 to 1995.
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Posted by mfsob on Friday, October 7, 2005 1:13 PM
Didn't the Germans end up with a few of the older Perry class frigates as well?
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Posted by jtilley on Friday, October 7, 2005 11:49 AM
I believe the Skywave/Pitt Road 1/700 Charles Francis Adams-class destroyer kit has parts and decals for the German Lutjens class. Not exactly German ships - but a beautiful kit. And it could be dressed up with any of several aftermarket parts sets.

I'm pretty sure that kit has been issued in a DML/Dragon box - but I don't know whether that version offers the German option.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 7, 2005 4:20 AM
Well, yes - resin seems to be my only chance...

if anybody is interested: there's a model of the new Brandenburg-class frigates available from a company called NNT (available at Pacific Front), and a closer look on that kit can be found here (in German only, but a pretty good website):
http://www.modellversium.de/kit/artikel.php?id=482&origin=cat

@ seasick: looking forward to see a picture of your Hamburg!

Jörg
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Posted by seasick on Thursday, October 6, 2005 8:18 PM
Resin is about it. I have the HP Bundesmarine Hamburg destroyer in 1/700. I like it. I'll try to take a picture of it and scan it into my computer.

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Posted by EdGrune on Thursday, October 6, 2005 6:57 PM
Modern German Navy in plastic 1:350 or 1:700 scale.

The only ones which I can think of are the ex USN Adams class destroyers sold to the (West) German Navy. They included the Rommel and Luetgens. Look for Dragon Models in 1:700 scale - CF Adams. (One may have been repoped by Revel of Germany as the Rommel).

Otherwise, the link below is to Pacific Front Hobby's listing of HP Models Modern German Navy ships in 1:700 scale resin

http://www.pacificfront.com/detail.asp?H-P!Models|H-P!Models!Resin!Kits|1/700!Scale!Kits!-!Modern!German!Ships
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German modern navy
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 6, 2005 6:39 AM
Hello all,

does anyone know where to find plastic modells of the post-war German navy (1/350 or 1/700)? I remember Revell had a 1/300 Bremen-class frigate in their program once, but that's it....

Who can help?

Best regards,
Jörg
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