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Anyone interested in a Kitbash GB?
Posted by MBT70 on Wednesday, November 2, 2005 4:20 PM
More guns, more armor, bigger hull, extra sails, new radars, taller masts, nuclear power, ramming bow, sonar domes ... who among us hasn't modified a ship to be more than the kit offered? And is there a one among us who hasn't dreamed of building their ultimate dreadnaught/schooner/surf boat/liner/corvette/rowboat/canoe/kayak/oil tanker/aircraft carrier.

I throw down the glove ... who will take the challenge to kitbash a maritime model into their dream boat? Any takers? I already made a 1/350 80,000 ton battleship with fifteen 18" guns. What say ye, Mateys? Anyone care to go for 20" guns? Or maybe a 40-man nuclear kayak with square rigging? Set yer jibs and step up to the rail ...

Are ya with me?
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Posted by MBT70 on Thursday, November 3, 2005 8:42 AM
Tap, tap ... is this thing on? I guess that's my answer.
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Posted by scottrc on Thursday, November 3, 2005 8:50 AM
SCHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELCH

Yup, its on.

Sounds alright to me, at least that will be one GB that I might finish.
My current project is doing a SCB27 modification to a Dragon Randolph kit.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 3, 2005 11:15 PM
How about kitbashing something a little more conservative? I imagine a Tamiya MIssouri could be modified into a Montana-class. Somehow. Too bad my skills and wallet aren't up to the task, or I'd be glad to join in.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 5, 2005 4:06 PM
i'd love to join this GB but my deployment interferes a little bit. i'll join in 7 months.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 5, 2005 11:16 PM
ill think about it if you show me some pics of it
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Posted by MBT70 on Monday, November 7, 2005 10:53 AM
Here ya go, Sherm ......

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/bb/bb-73/350-br/br-index.html
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Posted by scottrc on Monday, November 7, 2005 12:29 PM
WOW! That was some kitbash.


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Posted by Jeff Herne on Monday, November 7, 2005 2:55 PM
Like I don't have enough going on...ok...here's my entry...

It's 1942, and the Japanese carrier fleet survived the Battle of Midway, and the US carriers didn't. The Iowa Class hulls currently under construction were converted into fleet carriers to make up for the loss of the ships sunk at Midway.

Sound far-fetched? Well, we all know how history came out...but what I bet you didn't know, is that the US Navy had drawings of just such a conversion. Using the same basic methods as they did on the Lexington and Saratoga (converted from battle-cruiser hulls in the 1920s), the US actually had drawings done of Iowa-Class converted fleet carriers.

There's my kitbash...I have the hull done...I guess I have motivation now, huh?

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Posted by MBT70 on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 10:44 AM
Hey ... you got no room to gripe.  After that way-cool Liberty ship story and the awesome IJN Mikasa review, I'm thinkin' you can do it all.  Now I gotta reach a higher bar with my BGN-67 kitbash ......
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Posted by EdGrune on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 11:10 AM

 Jeff Herne wrote:
Like I don't have enough going on...ok...here's my entry...

I bet you didn't know, is that the US Navy had drawings of just such a conversion. Using the same basic methods as they did on the Lexington and Saratoga (converted from battle-cruiser hulls in the 1920s), the US actually had drawings done of Iowa-Class converted fleet carriers.

Well Jeff, you could have teased them with the plans from the Spring Styles book at the US Naval Historical Center 

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/albums/s511-cv.htm

Or is that a hold back for future projects

 

 

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Posted by MBT70 on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 11:28 AM

Ed,

This drawing shows twin 5"/38 mountings, but I saw one on the link that projected three triple-mounted 8"/55 turrets.  I think we should hold Jeff's feet to the fire to do that one.

BTW - Jeff ... with the new format, is a badge out of the question, or should I gin one up?  I don't care if we just get three players on this GB ... let's boogie ...... 

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Posted by Jeff Herne on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 11:36 AM
Ok, those are the drawings!!

They're not much to work from, but it's better than nothing!!

I'll be probably using 40mm, since the 3"/50 wasn't in service in '43/'44 when this ship was likely to have arrived on the scene.

As for the badge, go for it.

Jeff
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 18, 2005 5:50 AM
i'll be the fourth in a few months. i already have plans to convert tamiya's JMSDF Shimokita into a destroyer and to name it the USS Hornet. Now everyone should know that with that name it better be one heck of a ship and it will be. Plans include: Mk41 VLS, Harpoon launchers, AN/SPY-1D Radar, 5"/54 deck guns fore and aft, a hanger for a fictional SH-64 "Sea Apache", shortened well deck with LCAC gunship insideShock [:O], and a few things that i'm keeping secret until the "launching" of the vessel. (meaning that the first posted pictures of it will be accompanied by a list of ALL changes). 
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Posted by CapnMac82 on Friday, November 18, 2005 3:39 PM

Wow, a KB indeed!

Only quibble I'd make (not to set another KB in motion, or the like <wink> honest) would be that there probably ought to be a "flag" bridge, with a "super" flag bridge to go with the regular bridge.  This would follow the command staffing trends in '45.  Also, the quad 40's should all be radar-directed 3"50 DP dual mounts--but dual 40's could go in 1 for 5 or 6 of the 20 mm's, to follow one anti-kamikaze scheme.

There was a call, I seem to remember reading somewhere for "monitors" to support the invasion of Japan.  I want to remember that an Des Moines-class hull was being considered for that.  Now, there's a mental picture.  Probably a Baltimore would have been needed instead.  Another menta picture there.  Like one of the Lex's removed 8" turrets as the secondary, aft, and a salvaged Pennsylvannia class forward . . .

Hmm, how about an American "Moscow"?  Say a Tico front (with vls) and a Tarawa stern? 

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 19, 2005 4:56 AM
  now now, lets not go too overboard. that would be quite a combination and a rather difficult one at that, but would be quite interesting in the end.
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Posted by MBT70 on Saturday, November 19, 2005 8:51 PM

Not to mention ... less talk and more kitbashing, please!  I launched my BBM (Monster Battleship), so let's see some of you hot rods put me to shame!

The gauntlet is thrown at your feet ....

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 10:13 AM
   Well based on my current watch rotation i just might have enough time to build my amphib destroyer while on my deployment. Hopefully i'll get it done before deployment's over.
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Posted by MBT70 on Thursday, December 15, 2005 5:44 PM
Okay ... since I raised such a ruckus here, I'll take a few shots of my in-progress BGN-Montana and put them up for the rivet counters and second-guessers to fire at.  Should have them here in a day or so.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 27, 2006 2:00 PM
    Just a question. Should we make up a back ground story for the ship or not? i have an idea for mine but i'm not sure if i should write a full length story.
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Posted by MBT70 on Friday, January 27, 2006 4:38 PM

Go for it!  The rationale (or lack of it) behind a kitbash is all part of the provenance that adds intrigue and discussion to the effort.  It might be as simple as "my cat destroyed three models at once, so I blended them all together in the Flying Ferrari Tank."  Or it can be a studied treatise in alternative history that asks, "If a meteor strike wiped out most of humanity and melted the icecaps so that the world was flooded over, what kinds of giant warships would the survivors live on so they could keep killing each other?"

Makes for some hairy speculation, eh?

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 28, 2006 5:30 PM
read you loud and clear on that one i just started writing it today for the heck of it. its pretty long so far, so hopefully i can shorten it a little bit.
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Posted by MBT70 on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 4:33 PM

I was actually writing a Sci-Fi book on the above scenario, then Costner came out with Waterworld and I just said "F**k it" and moved on to something else.  I had another about a third done about genetically-engineered spiders made big and weaponized, then Arachnids came out, followed by Eight-Legged Freaks and I trashed that one too.  So I started one from the perspective of a carnivourous dinosaur and it's life story and out comes Walking With Dinosaurs.

So I have one book published by Random House and it's a non-fiction ... go figure.  But I've illustrated about eight done by other writers.

Maybe it's because I usually build a model or two to get the creative juices flowing and it slows me down ... you should see my two-foot Wolf Spider .....

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 1, 2006 2:02 PM
ok How about HMS Vanguard with 12 16" guns. Is there a scale requirement I can knock this up in 1/3000 in a matter of days:)
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Posted by MBT70 on Friday, February 3, 2006 4:24 PM
Do it to it ....
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 3, 2006 4:49 PM
Hmm might take a bit longer I had forgotten i let a friend have my HMS Vanguard I will have to get another one:)
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Posted by navypitsnipe on Sunday, December 31, 2006 8:38 AM
 well my destroyer is finally starting to take shape. i got the superstructure assembled and now need to attach it to the hull, the 2 176mm AGS's are built and also need to be attached, VLS is in place and the Helo hanger is under construction. once i have a little bit more free time i'll get some pics posted
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Posted by MBT70 on Wednesday, January 3, 2007 1:00 PM
Itching to see it. Keep up the good works. BTW - My Montana kitbash fell victim to hot sun through a studio window ... forgot to close the miniblinds and it sagged everywhere with the heat.
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