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  • Member since
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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Sunday, November 13, 2005 8:56 AM

Hi Bob McCabe

I hope that the file I sent is helpful.   I also found this article by Phil Kirchmeier on resin shipbuilding which appeared in the April 2004 issue of FSM.   It is here at FineScale, in the free Articles section

http://www.finescale.com/fsm/default.aspx?c=a&id=1477

It has some more good info.  I used some of the info which it contains along with other resources such as the Kalmbach book on ship modeling by Mike Ashey in preparing my presentation

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  • From: Australia
Posted by rokket on Friday, November 11, 2005 8:00 PM

Listen to Ed and the others.

I did some resin work last year, and found it pretty easy to work with. SuperGlue/cyanoacrolyte works well. I found the resin to be both more solid than styrene and yet softer too - it's weird, you'll get used to it. Drilling was easy but not too easy. And Tamiya has a creamy grey putty that is beautiful stuff, works on resin very, very well! (But I found it wants to melt styrene, which is weird, I think it's made for it). Good luck!

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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Friday, November 11, 2005 10:55 AM

 mccaber wrote:

When I was checking the web site of the supplier you recomended I noticed that they have a model of a ship that my Dad served on for a short time. The Sackville, so I think that I will give it a shot.

The ISW Short Foc'sle (Sackville) and Long Foc'sle Flower-class corvettes are nice little kits and everything which I said about the Tacoma-class frigate holds true.   I hope that you will enjoy the build.  Don't be intimidated by resin.   It is actually a very friendly and forgiving medium.   You have Ted Paris' and Jon Warneke's contact information from the website.   I encourage you to contact them with any problems or concerns.

If you have any questions which I can help you with - post back I'll do my best.

If you want the presentation from the IPMS USA Nats which I offered perviously - post back with your email address and I'll send it off to you.  It is in Powerpoint.

 

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  • From: Spartanburg, SC
Posted by subfixer on Friday, November 11, 2005 7:11 AM
You're welcome. (the Vet thing)

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 11, 2005 7:06 AM

Thanks Ed for your promt replys, sorry I am so long in getting back too you. But the new configuration of the web site would not let me in. When I was checking the web site of the supplier you recomended I noticed that they have a model of a ship that my Dad served on for a short time. The Sackville, so I think that I will give it a shot. When I get it, I will be back with many questions I am sure. Anyhow thanks again, And remember to thank a Vet today!

          Cheers!                                                                                                                       

                    McCaber

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  • From: West Virginia, USA
Posted by mfsob on Friday, November 4, 2005 8:20 AM
McCaber - I too was a "newbie" to resin ship kits earlier this year, when I tackled my first model kit is something like *mumbles* 40 years - a 1/700 Victory ship kit from Loose Cannon Productions. My first thought on opening the box was, OMG, this thing is TINY! My second thought was, No way in hell can I do this. My third thought was ... well, let's just say I got down too it, took my TIME (the most important factor) and "got her done."

And it looked decent, so decent that I immediately tackled another one to model as the Victory ship my Dad served on in WWII. That involved a lot more effort and some minor scratchbuilding, but with help from other guys on this formum, and some technical pointers from the Loose Cannon guys, I ended up with this: http://www.finescale.com/fsm/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=48602

Loose Cannon also makes a Tacoma class frigate in 1/700 that you might want to check. I have been satisfied with both the kits I have bought from them and can recommend them: http://home.earthlink.net/~loosecannonproductions/Kit20.html
The best thing about that is, you get TWO kits, so if you really, really screw up ...
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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Friday, November 4, 2005 7:16 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by mccaber

Many many thanks Ed, you sound like a expert I only wish you lived close and I could get some hands on help. I have never worked with resin before and am kind of afraid to start.

What questions can I help you with?

An expert --- well I always heard that an expert was a guy who was 50 miles away from home with a slide show.

Errr, umm, ahh -- I did give a presentation at the Nats back in July on resin ships ...

Inexperience & fear was one of the items I addressed and why I recommended ISW in my posting [i.e. their guarantee]

Post your questions. I'm going out of town this weekend. Either someone here will answer or I'll do it when I get back n Sunday.

If I can dig it out - would you like a copy of the Powerpoint presentation I gave in July?
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 4, 2005 6:52 AM
Many many thanks Ed, you sound like a expert I only wish you lived close and I could get some hands on help. I have never worked with resin before and am kind of afraid to start.
Thanks Again!
McCaber
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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Thursday, November 3, 2005 7:48 AM
from Wikipedia ...
>>
The River class frigates were 151 frigates launched in 1941–1944. They were designed for anti-submarine warfare and convoy protection in the Atlantic. They served in the Royal Navy, Royal Canadian Navy, Royal Australian Navy, United States Navy and Free French Navy in World War II and were sold on to other navies after the war.

The Rivers were designed by naval engineer William Reed to have the endurance and anti-submarine capabilities of the Black Swan-class sloops, while being quick and cheap to build in civil dockyards using the machinery and construction techniques pioneered in the building of the Flower-class corvettes.

The River-class design was used as the basis for the Tacoma class of the United States Navy.
<<

There are no styrene kits of a River that I am aware of.

However Iron Shipwright makes a model of a Tacoma class they sell as the USS Burlington.



http://www.commanderseries.com/ships_350.html

It is resin with photoetched details.

Yes, it will be more expensive than a styrene kit but let me list you some positive things.
1) It is the only game in town.
2) Resin glues with superglue or epoxy. No fancy adhesives needed
3) Resin sands & cuts easily. The dust is non-toxic but is an irritant. Wet sanding helps minimize dust.
4) Resin paints with your favorite type of paint, enamels or acrylics. No special paint necessary. Use what you are familiar with.
5) With most styrene kits fine details (railings, radars, etc.) are cast solid with little detail. If you want to replace them with photoetch for better appearance you must pay for the aftermarket set. With most resin ship kits PE is included as part of the basic kit.
6) Iron Shipwright has perhaps the best customer satisfaction policy in the business,

'They want you to be satisfied.' You get the kit and there are broken or missing parts - call Jon Warneke or Ted Paris. They will send replacements (This includes hulls). You are assembling the kit and break something -- totally your fault. Call Jon or Ted - they will replace it (including hulls). You complete the kit & give it to your father. The family cat knocks it off the mantle. Call Jon & Ted. Yes -that has really happened.

You can't go wrong. ISW stands behind their stuff. They are recommended.

If you wish to order - call Ted Paris. He is in Rochester, NY - not too far from the 'Great White North'. He can set you right up. He takes cash or plastic.

Tell him that Ed Grune recommended you.

Disclaimer: I personally know both Jon & Ted. I have made several masters for ISW. I have worked the ISW booth at several shows. I am part of the larger group of modelers & craftsmen who produce ISW kits.

  • Member since
    November 2005
Newbie Help
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 3, 2005 6:33 AM
I am about to become a newbie ship builder. My Dad servered with the Canadian navy during the 2nd world war aboard a River Class frigate. I would like to buid a replica of one in his memory. I have checked a couple of hobby shops but have been unable to find any frigate models at all, lots of destroyer's and battleships etc. Am I not looking at the right thing under a different name perhaps? Any advice and help would by greatly appreciated.
Cheers!
McCaberBig Smile [:D]
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