Measure 32 paint scheme and colors for the Richelieu

Hi Tracy,

Measure 32 was one of the US Navy's WW2 camouflage measures, in this case a medium-toned one (Measure 31 used dark tones, and Measure 33 used light tones).

The colors used in RICHELIEU's Measure 32 pattern (which was different on port and starboard sides) were BK Dull Black, 5-O Ocean Gray, and 5-H Haze Gray. Decks and other horizontal surfaces were painted 20-B Deck Blue, except for the main battery turret tops which were painted 5-H Haze Gray initially after the refit, but were subsequently repainted 20-B Deck Blue the following August. In addition, Measure 32 called for the use of countershading: painting the undersides of overhanging decks and platforms in 5-U White to reduce shadows. Finally, her underwater hull was painted in Norfolk 65-A Antifouling Red.

We have all those colors accurately matched to the originals and available in our Colourcoats enamels:

C 02, Matt Black (matched to USN BK Dull Black); US 06, 5-O Ocean Gray; US 05, 5-H Haze Gray; US 10, 20-B Deck Blue; C 03, Matt White (matched to USN 5-U White); US 14, Norfolk 65-A Antifouling Red.

There is no minimum order on paints, and we ship worldwide.

Before you ask, there are no FS references for these paints, as they predate the initiation of the FS system. USN WW2 colors were based on the 1929 Munsell Book of Color, a copy of which we hold in our library. For more information on USN WW2 camouflage, its development and applications, go to http://www.shipcamouflage.com.

Cheers,

John Snyder, The Token Yank, White Ensign Models, http://WhiteEnsignModels.com

Thanks Guys,

 Jeez I'm way behind the power curve on this stuff! I guess that's part of what makes it so much more fun. I got into military modeling for the historical aspect of it for the most part anyway. That and my Dad and his buddies and all my uncles being in WWII. My neighbor when I was growing up landed at Iwo Jima at the age of 17 EEK! So I'm kinda born and raised military buff not to mention Navy Veteran (Airdale, Air Winger, Brown Shoe Navy) of 11 years. Oops rambling again!!  Anyway Thanks for the info I'll put it to good use.

Tracy

G'Day Tracy,

                  There is a little book called Famous Ships of World War 2 by Chris Ellis and published by Blandford Press ISBN 0 7137 0786 0 . Which covers all the schemes used by the combatant nations including all the US Measures.

One of the ships covered is Richelieu. although the art work is of her in Admiralty standard for the Eastern Fleet.

I can scan the relevant details and email them to you if you wish.

Dai

Tracy,

I was going to suggest contacting John Snyder at WEM, but I see he has already posted his recomendations. He was a tremendous help to me in picking out the colors on my Prince Of Wales project. I was very happy with the results. In my book, he's the "go to" guy for ship colors.

Ted

Dai,

Thanks for the offer, that would be a great help! Sorry for not replying sooner seems I'm not recieving notices of reply although it set up to tell me when someone replies. No worries though sometimes "things" just happen to all these little electrons all lined up.

 Yeah Oz John has already helped me out immensely I'm beginning to think I should probably start sending him a portion of my paycheck to keep him on retainer as a technical supervisor

Thanks,

Tracy

Well back at the Richelieu again, might have a picture or two soon

Anyhow I was again wondering (seems to be an acquired talent as one ages) about the A/A gun stations. Since she was refitted in New York with Muruhcan A/A gun complement quad 40's and single 20's (although neither design is American) are there any good pics out and arouind on the net for the gun tubs and stations? I know there are ready round racks and lockers that have to be there and since I've managed to create some fairly scale looking gun tubs for the 40's I need to add some more detail

(AKA boo boo camoflage ) Seems like I'm working harder on stuff to put on it than the actual model itself!

Also I've noticed some items on the main turret side that I can't quite figure out they look to be saluting guns or maybe telescopes anyone have an idea?

Thanks,

Tracy