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1/32 USN 26' Whaleboat--musings

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Posted by Jeff Herne on Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:30 AM
I have a MicroGlass S-100 hull in 1/32 scale, and it's a beauty. Karl at MicroGlass does excellent work, the hull is perfect thickness, not flimsy, and the outside of the hull is perfectly smooth. A nice set of plans were included but as mentioned, that's all you get, you need to scratchbuild the rest.

I'm friends with Abe Taubman, he was a founding member of the Ship Model Society of Northern NJ, which I was president of for a term before moving to Wisconsin last year.

Abe is sadly deaf as a board, and after his wife of 60+ years passed away last year, he lost interest in the plan service which he ran for decades.

At least on the East Coast, Abe is a legend amongst ship modelers.

Jeff
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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Thursday, January 26, 2006 9:34 AM
 CG Bob wrote:

These are not recommended for the novice builder."

LoL!  I'm a "hack" builder, not a novice--I'm likely safe <g>.

Thinking about it from a kit manufacturer's POV, it'd be a bit of a pain to kit up, as the bulkheads, floor boards, etc., all have differences between the clinker, carvel, and FG hulls--while having nearly identical lines.  The sun shade has some variety, too, running from canvas over bows to sheetmetal to FG, and IIRC, a very short-lived thermo-formed styrene.

Oh well, maybe the LCV(R) project wants to be sooner rather than later <g>.

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Posted by CG Bob on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 7:41 AM

MicroGlass provides a fiberglass hull and usually plans (depends on the hull) - it is not a kit.  You must provide the prop, shaft, rudder, and all the other bits and pieces to scratchbuild the rest of the boat. 

As stated on the MicroGlass site:  "Please keep in mind that our offerings are HULLS ONLY, accompanied by general arrangement drawings where noted. There are no materials, fittings or instructions included, as these units are intended for reasonably skilled modelers. These are not recommended for the novice builder."

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, January 23, 2006 4:06 PM

Yeah, mfsob hit what I was trying to remember, that it was Staubitz.

I'm going to have to actually dig through old mags to go and read the review, too (gotta love that "I'm only going to read the one . . ." famous last words <g>).  I want to remember that the review panned them for something, I jsut can't remember what.

I may break down and get the microglass kit just to see what comes in the box.  If it's a smooth-cast hull, that could be cool, too--I could knock together the gig/barge my dad's old ship, DD-554, USS Boyd.  Boyd had a Commodore refit, which put a cabin on the 01/0100 portside abaft the bridge.  This meant not having a portside MWB, and also that the remaining MWB rated a blue stripe, even without a commodore on board.

Now, to muse on whether I'm tough enough to make 1/32 sennit . . . <g>

That is, unless the Boat Book I just scored off of eBay does not distract me with it's very nice photos shoing the insides of plane arming, fueling, and personnel boats (1/32 Kingfisher?  A Seamew, why, of course I must have one . . . <g>)

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, January 23, 2006 3:39 PM

I need to find a cigar brand which comes

Partegas Humitubes come with that paper-thin slice of spanish cedar you are likely thinking of.  Spanish cedar being the prefered aromatic of humidors.

There's a brand I want to say is called Robert Burns which was a decent enough smoke--but was much more valuable for the s.c. from the tubes.

I cannot remember is the "tubed" Macanudos have a cedar veneer in them or not--might be a reason to stop by the store for a Robust in Maduro <g>

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  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Monday, January 23, 2006 11:27 AM

That's the one I remembered, all right - though I thought it was bigger.

Tip:  you might want to consider either cherry or pearwood veneer, rather than mahogany.  Mahogany has a pronounced, open grain that a 1/96-scale sailor would be in danger of tripping over.  The grain can be filled, of course, but sailing ship modelers are in the habit of using finer-grained woods for such purposes.  Firms like Woodcraft ( www.woodcraft.com ), Rockler ( www.rockler.com ), and Constantine's ( www.constantines.com ) offer nice selections of veneer in reasonable quantities. 

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Monday, January 23, 2006 10:23 AM

You may be talking about Masterpieces in Miniature

http://www.minmbox387.com/k96.html

They offer several 1:96 scale vacuformed kits including a 26' MWB.   I have one in the stash.   I've not gone beyond fingering it -- I need to find a cigar brand which comes with a thin verneer mahogany wrapper to construct the seats.   Painted plastic & wood decals have just not made the correct impression.

I have made their vacuformed LCVP and it makes into a very nice kit - more detailed than the Heller/Airfix offering in 1:72 scale

They also offer some 1:192 scale kits and details

 

 

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  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Monday, January 23, 2006 9:59 AM
I have an extremely vague recollection of a motor whaleboat kit (I don't recall the scale, but it was fairly large) that was advertised years ago in the Floating Drydock catalog.  The one thing I remember about it is that it had a vac-formed styrene hull and cast metal fittings.  I think there were several other vac-formed kits in a series from the same manufacturer.  I remember thinking that sounded like a reasonable way to reproduce that particular hull form - but I never saw the kit and don't remember anything else about it.  Maybe the guys at the Floating Drydock could help.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by CG Bob on Monday, January 23, 2006 9:36 AM
Staubitz of Buffalo went out of business in the late 1980's or early 1990's.  Some of the molds were bought by MicroGlass.  MicroGlass produces the Navy whaleboat .  Taubman Plans went out of business as well.  Loyalhanna Dockyard now owns the Taubman Plans catalog.  On the Loyalhanna site, look under "kits", then "Dean's Marine", then "DUKW"; there are some pictures of the USCG DUKW I built from the Dean's kit.
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Posted by mfsob on Sunday, January 22, 2006 8:26 AM

CapnMac82 , your comment triggered a memory. Digging through old FSM magazines, in the March-April 1985 issue there is a review of a 1/32 scale 26-foot motor whaleboat, kit no. 2632.

Manufactured by Staubitz of Buffalo, 105 Hollybrook Dr., Williamaville, NY, 14221, for $14.95 back then. I have no idea if this company still exists, but it's a lead.

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  • From: Texas
Posted by Yankee Clipper on Saturday, January 21, 2006 9:11 PM
Just crusing thru an old Taubman catolog and remember your musing. Wondering if you were refering to the SB Series SB-1 26' Motor Whaleboat MK 1, 1937. Don't know about the kit, do you know who made it? I was not aware that Taubman produced kits.
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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
1/32 USN 26' Whaleboat--musings
Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, January 16, 2006 5:16 PM

The other day, for reasons I cannot explain, the old (Taubman?) kit came to mind.  Much googling only offered the Microglass site (which has some interesting hulls for sale).

I know the kits did not exactly fly off the shelves, but I'm slightly surprised that there's not a couple on eBay or the like.

I want to remember it was a finicky sort of kit--but one that you could really trick up as there was nothing really "in the way" so you could build about any 26 footer you just about wanted to.

Anyone else with memories/experiences with the old gem?  With the new?

I'm getting some burn out getting the drawings squared away for a 26' LCP(L) I want to build.  I'm not quite keen, yet, to kitbash my UDT Boat into an LCP(R); but I would not mind something with pieces parts that would be finished (or with every intention of finishing, honest <g>, really, I don't need any more documentation <g>).

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