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Newbie...Freaking Out. Constitution Hull Paint Color Changing....

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  • From: Harrisburg, PA
Posted by Lufbery on Tuesday, February 7, 2006 8:23 AM
Wow! That really looks good. Thanks for the tip. Big Smile [:D]

-Drew

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Posted by DanCooper on Saturday, February 4, 2006 1:38 PM
I guess nothing simulates better oxydiced copper than oxydiced copper, great work and thanks for sharing this find.


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Posted by Leftie on Saturday, February 4, 2006 1:25 PM

Thanks to all who replied. I was hoping to weather the hull much like the current Cutty Sark. With this turn of events I guess I use more artistic license and less photo references.

 

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  • From: Glenolden, PA
Posted by highlanderburial on Friday, February 3, 2006 1:18 AM

Dude!

Mine did the same thing. I didn't mix any brown but painted the hull in a brown primer first which probably gave the same effect. After it turned green around the edges, I added white high lights and it looks awesomely weathered now. Once it did that, I decided to model "Ironsides" in it's post Barbary Pirate Wars era. She was kept at sea for a year longer than it should have been and looked quite ragged. Consequently the brown primer made for good woodgrain as I used thinner on the black to simulate the paint wearing off revealing the "natural" wood grain.

I am 80% finished. I have painted 100 crew figures, and have 130 more to paint. I also sewed up cotton sails which should look pretty nice. I chose this era due to the fact she was under the command of Captain Hugh Campbell, of the US Revenue Marine (Precursor to the USCG). I will post pictures when I get a little further along. It's nice to see someone else tackling this kit.

TMW

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Posted by scottrc on Thursday, February 2, 2006 7:24 AM
That does look pretty goodSmile [:)], copper paint does have real copper and zinc, which when you used your detergent / water mix, which is a good reagent, oxidized the metal.  Like what was metioned above, I would keep it as is since many of us try hard to make copper hulls look oxidized.

Scott

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Posted by cthulhu77 on Wednesday, February 1, 2006 8:25 PM
   Holy cow!  That looks every bit as good as the painstaking green washes I've been applying all of these years !   Wonderful news, and I will be trying it out on the next ship !
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Posted by Bgrigg on Wednesday, February 1, 2006 7:55 PM
I think it looks very realistic. You may not have planned it that way, but if I were you, I'd make it sound like that was the plan all along. It would be good to find out exactly how it happened, because what a great technique!

So long folks!

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Posted by glweeks on Wednesday, February 1, 2006 7:15 PM

Don't ya just love supprises???Question [?]  And you thought Christmass was over.  My guess would be the scrubbing allowed moisture in.  Copper does react by forming a green patina.  Look at the dome of state buildings.  It looks good, is more than likely history correct. What to worry?  Just remember, in weathering (most often) less is more.  One of the key things (that I violate frequently) is knowing when to stop.  It looks real good.    Onward thru the fog..................

                                               g.l.

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Newbie...Freaking Out. Constitution Hull Paint Color Changing....
Posted by Leftie on Wednesday, February 1, 2006 5:34 PM

  Is it possible that enamel copper paint can react to moisture? Just like a real copper hull? Let me run you through a few of the facts:

    I painted the hull with a 50/50 mix of Sienna Brown and Copper...both enamel. Then I tried to darken the surface with a brown watercolor with a bit of dish detergent added to aid in application. The first layer did exactly what I expected it to do. Darken it with a brown tint.

  After removing some of the color with a slightly moisten cloth I decided it needed another aplication of watercolor brown. This time the brown turned immediately to an off color green.  What's up with that?

  I'm not sure if I hate it but I'd like to control it. What do you guys think happened?

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