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  • Member since
    November 2005
Goethe detailing
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 8:47 PM

I'm back with more silly questions.   

As I yet await my books on the Santa Maria I ahve decided to build the Goethe Paddlesteamer.

I am trying to do a detailed job and am currently working on the interior but I am coming across a problem perhaps you all can help me with.

The exterior walls are white. Because this is a paddlesteamer it has large windows on the 2 decks. I want to do the interior wood toned. The problem comes with the clear plastic windows. The clear plastic runs from the top of the walls down to about the middle of the wall below the window area. My concern is such: If I first paint the inerior walls, the clear plastic may not adhere to the walls and may cause the wood tecture of the walls to be obscured. If I leave the interior walls alone until after installation of the clear plastic, when I do paint the wood grain, the look from the outside to the interior of the cabin will look funny as the clear plastic is so thick hence there will be a gap from the outside wall and the interior.

I hope this made sense.

What would you do in my position? Go ahead and paint the clear plstic? Paint the walls first? do both? trim the clear plastic? What?

Thanks for your input.

  • Member since
    May 2003
  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 10:49 PM

I haven't built the kit - or even seen the inside of the box.  My guess, though, is that when the model's finished the view of the interior will be pretty murky.  Your idea of painting the interior surfaces with a wood color sounds like a good one.  I suspect the generally "woody" appearance, seen through the windows, will be enough to look convincing.

Regarding the clear plastic parts, two suggestions occur to me off the top of my head.  One - paint the bulkhead interiors first and, if there's sufficient room, rely on the glue at the top of each clear piece to hold it in place.  Two - paint the bulkhead interiors first, let the paint dry thoroughly, give it a coat or two of flat finish, let that dry thoroughly, and stick the clear parts into position with white glue.  Our friends in the aircraft realm use white glue for mounting clear parts frequently.  It obviously doesn't have the solvent effect that plastic cement does, but it holds well enough for most purposes.

I've seen pictures of the box for that kit.  It looks like it has the potential to be a nice, slightly offbeat model.  Good luck.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Derry, New Hampshire, USA
Posted by rcboater on Thursday, February 9, 2006 7:39 AM

Some ideas:

1.  Paint the interior before assembly, install the parts using clear parts cement. (White glue.)  You might be able to minimize the gap effect by painting the sides of the individual windows with the wood color, so that when the window is installed, it looks like the casing around the window. 

2.  Don't use the kit windows at all.  Paint  the interior, and then, when the model is complete,  use clear parts cement or "Crystal clear" to make new windows.  (This is a product that is basically a thinned white glue- you fill the window opening with a film of the white glue, like a soap bubble, and it dries clear.  I use it instead of the thick parts supplied for fueslage windows with many aircraft kits.)  I don't know how big the windows are on this model, but this technique works well on small windows, and you can wait until painting is finished. 

HTH,

Webmaster, Marine Modelers Club of New England

www.marinemodelers.org

 

MJH
  • Member since
    April 2005
  • From: Melbourne, Australia
Posted by MJH on Friday, February 10, 2006 7:11 AM
I'd go along with jtilley's suggestion re the PVA glue after painting the 'wood', but I'm not sure you'd have to use a flat finish first, in my (admittedly small) experience it'll hold on pretty well whatever the texture.

I printed a review of this kit from one of our members in the club newsletter this time last year which details a few parts fitment problems that it might help to know about in advance.  If you want a copy drop me an email and I'll send you the PDF.

Michael

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MJH
  • Member since
    April 2005
  • From: Melbourne, Australia
Posted by MJH on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 5:30 AM
Robert;

Sent the PDF to your email twice now, have you received it yet?
Michael

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  • Member since
    March 2004
  • From: Belgium
Posted by DanCooper on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:30 AM
I haven't built the kit, nor have I seen the parts of it, but I have had the kit in my hands for a couple times, and I sure would be interested to learn more about it, so if I could get my hands on pics or those pdf files I would be a very happy modeler.Smile [:)]

On the bench : Revell's 1/125 RV Calypso

MJH
  • Member since
    April 2005
  • From: Melbourne, Australia
Posted by MJH on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:23 AM
I, too, thought about purchasing this kit because it was something 'different', but when I saw the contents of the box I was less impressed than with the box-top illustration.  It just didn't seem to me to be worth the money - but I stress that that's just a personal assessment based on my own expectations.

Here's the completed model I mentioned;



The boat is quite long but is very narrow in the beam, as befits a river craft I suppose, and there's not a lot of detail to add interest.  I'd like to build a paddler of some sort but I think I'll try to get an Aoshima release of the IMAI Susquehanna instead.

Michael

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  • Member since
    March 2004
  • From: Belgium
Posted by DanCooper on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:28 PM
Thanks for article and the picture, Michael, it wil indeed be helpfull when I decide to do the "Goethe"

On the bench : Revell's 1/125 RV Calypso

  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 17, 2006 3:00 AM

After working on this kit for a while, I am not impressed.

I like the one off kits, but this one is way off. I am no great modeler, but this kit has some problems and the instructions are terrible.

I am still going through with the build however. It gives me something to get mad at other than my Pamir or Santa Maria.

I am so upset with how it all looks (better in the box than out) I may go for it and do something real wild. Basically painting it the way I want and not give it the name "Goethe". How about a hippie paddler?

Will keep all updated as I go along.

 

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