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What part of the ship do you enjoy building the most and least?

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What part of the ship do you enjoy building the most and least?
Posted by Donnie on Monday, March 6, 2006 11:09 AM

These are in order starting with what I like the most, at the end is the least I like:

(this has nothing to do with the order in which the ship is built)

1) Doing all the initial research.

2) I really enjoy the initial deck layout with installed the cannons and some of the deck furniture and fittings the most.

3) I guess next is the rigging. I enjoy the rigging part.

4) Hull painting and layout - I guess I like this part, but I get hung up on deciding colors.

5) getting the paint out to paint one odd part. This is annoying !

6) Cutting, sanding, scraping a part that will not fit right. This is really annoying !

7) poorly written and poor graphics on instructions or written in opposite language you are accustomed to. I guess this is the most frustrating an irritating part !

So, please tell me - what do you like or dislike about building your ships?

I am sure that their are some that enjoy the whole process !

In Progress: OcCre's Santisima Trindad Finished Builds: Linbergs "Jolly Roger" aka La Flore Mantua's Cannone Da Costa Americano linberg's "Cptn Kidd" aka Wappen Von Hamburg Model Shipways 1767 Sultana Midwest Boothbay Lobsterboat (R/C)

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Posted by scottrc on Monday, March 6, 2006 2:42 PM

Hmmmm!  My list may get a little long so my apologies.
My apologies and respect also to those who build tanks, Jeff Herne, and Amazon women.

Here I go,
1. Getting that first little tweaky feeling in the pit of my stomach when I see a subject and get an idea to incorporate that subject in a project.
2. Shopping for and buying the plans, model, or models, or a box of plastic and a pile of wood to make a model.  Spreading all the parts on the table and visualizing what they will someday look like and explaining all this to my wife, who looks about as enthused as a stuffed moose.
3. Researching, which is an excuse to get out of the house to visit museums, libraries, or veterans, or to sit and be a couch potato watching Victory at Sea re-runs.
4. Shopping for aftermarket parts and combing the Fabric and Beauty Supply stores for parts and materials.  I love the expression on the storeclerks face.
5. Opening the box and playing with the little airplanes and deck guns.  This has been a ritual since I was two years old.
6. Realizing, judging from the stares from my family and their visiting friends, while I'm playing with the little airplanes at the kitchen table, that I am no longer two years old.
7. Sitting down and finding that I have taken on a big risk, investment in time and money, and really have to "think" how on earth I am going to scratchbuild a 1/700 F9F Panther with folded wings, full complement of rockets, and the crew chief standing on the wing, in fact, twenty of them in various positions.
8. Having to have the house evacuated, the fire department called, and the house fumigated because I didn't get the mix right on a batch of resin or forgot to vent the sulfuric tank when etching, hence see number 7.
9. Having a six year old boy and a six month old kitten "help" me rig shrouds on a 1/96 Confederate Raider which was ambushed the night before by my helpers.
10. Setting up the airbrush, only to have it clog, spit, and sputter throughout the entire night.
11. Sanding in 1/700 scale, never enough or always too much.
12. Waiting eleven weeks for my entire PE order to arrive, and the day it does, I find that my bottle of CA has solidified and it is Sunday, my only day off, and also the day off for all hobby store employees.
13. Sitting down and concentrating on tying a precise knot on a rig or a bend on some photoetch, only to have my train of thought interrupted by the phone, "Oh Honey", or the sound of a crash followed by a scream from a kid, cat, and a barking dog.
14. Having my tools and supplies "borrowed" to pluck eyebrow hairs and to polish and glue fingernails.
15. Actual construction of the hull, upperworks and details are the best, figuring out how I'm going to mask and paint a dazzle scheme on it after I have glued everything in place gives me a totally different feeling, such as either that of "bang head against wall" "throw model against wall" or "go have a beer".
16. Actually finishing the project and realizing that I have overcome a challenge, that it actually looks like a ship and not something the dog coughed up, but anticipating about starting a new, more challenging project they may someday look like Jeff Herne built it.  But, due to me lacking such refinement of skills for the time being, I may just have to settle on building something like a Tank or one of those sculptures of a half naked Amazon woman.
17. Realizing that I can't just build one at a time, but have to be working on at least three projects at the same time.
18. Coming to FSM and finding that I am not alone, that there are others as worse or a lot worse off than I am with this love, addition, interest in model ship building.
19. I don't have any likes or dislikes about the ship building process, I like everything about it.  I'm also bi-polar.
20. Cats.

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Posted by Donnie on Monday, March 6, 2006 4:09 PM

 scottrc wrote:
 20. Cats.
  Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]

In Progress: OcCre's Santisima Trindad Finished Builds: Linbergs "Jolly Roger" aka La Flore Mantua's Cannone Da Costa Americano linberg's "Cptn Kidd" aka Wappen Von Hamburg Model Shipways 1767 Sultana Midwest Boothbay Lobsterboat (R/C)

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Posted by jtilley on Monday, March 6, 2006 4:52 PM

I guess the parts I enjoy least are those that involve lots of repetition.  Figuring out how to do something the first time is fun and satisfying; actually doing it twenty or thirty times is drudgery.  Especially if, after about the tenth time, you figure out a better way to do it, and have to decide whether to continue with your original method or start over.

Same thing goes for anything intricate or otherwise challenging that has to be done on both sides of the ship.  Figuring out how to make the starboard quarter gallery on my little model of the Hancock, for instance, was interesting and fun.  Making the port quarter gallery in such a way that it was a mirror image of the starboard was just plain dull. 

 

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by Donnie on Monday, March 6, 2006 8:41 PM
 jtilley wrote:
Figuring out how to do something the first time is fun and satisfying; actually doing it twenty or thirty times is drudgery.


Oh - I agree 100%

Well, at least I know that I am not alone in my thoughts -

Donnie

In Progress: OcCre's Santisima Trindad Finished Builds: Linbergs "Jolly Roger" aka La Flore Mantua's Cannone Da Costa Americano linberg's "Cptn Kidd" aka Wappen Von Hamburg Model Shipways 1767 Sultana Midwest Boothbay Lobsterboat (R/C)

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Posted by millard on Monday, March 6, 2006 9:44 PM

Donnie

 1. Opening the box and looking at all the parts and visualating what the models going to look like.

2.Doing research on the ships of that era or that ship in particular.

3.Rigging I really enjoy that .The yards and mast start to tighten up the end  is getting near.

My dislikes.

1.Sanding, sanding ,sanding.getting rid of seams, flash and the like just takes forever.

2.Waiting for paints ,stains ,glues to dry so that I can go on.

3.This may sound funny but when the models done I feel a little sad because I won't be working on it any more,Except I can start all over again on another.

Rod

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Posted by Donnie on Monday, March 6, 2006 9:58 PM
 millard wrote:
1. Opening the box and looking at all the parts and visualating what the models going to look like.

 millard wrote:
2.Waiting for paints ,stains ,glues to dry so that I can go on.

 millard wrote:
3.This may sound funny but when the models done I feel a little sad because I won't be working on it any more,Except I can start all over again on another.

Thanks Rod,

I agree too to these things. I am quoting, because I agree and actually didn't think of these until I read yours and others postings.

It is interesting that we share alot of the same points.

In Progress: OcCre's Santisima Trindad Finished Builds: Linbergs "Jolly Roger" aka La Flore Mantua's Cannone Da Costa Americano linberg's "Cptn Kidd" aka Wappen Von Hamburg Model Shipways 1767 Sultana Midwest Boothbay Lobsterboat (R/C)

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Posted by MBT70 on Friday, March 10, 2006 9:54 AM

I like doing the hull the most, because it's usually the best looking or most distinctive feature of the ship.  Then comes the guns, the more the better and the bigger the better, because that's what the  hul is for, carrying firepower to the enemy (yeah, I'm a dreadnaught guy).  Next most fun is all the superstructure and accoutrement that put it into action.

Least favorite is rigging and teensy-tiny parts, followed closely by painting.  I love a ship where all these things are done well, but they are the work part of it and really consume the most time.  And painting is messy and difficult when you don't have a proper space for it, plus a spouse who hates the smell of paint (unless she has me on a ladder in the living room with HER paint).

Okay ... I'd enjoy most all of it with a few ... changes ... in the house.

Life is tough. Then you die.
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Posted by sumpter250 on Friday, March 10, 2006 4:23 PM

This is easy.

I like building the ship.(from research, to the last siezing,or shackle pin.

I don't like building the display case.

Lead me not into temptation ..................I can find it myself

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Posted by devinj on Friday, March 10, 2006 5:11 PM

I believe my favorite part would have to be painting.

My least favorite part is doing depth charges and K-guns on DD models.  Talk about a chore (although I bet that as soon as I get into the AA on the USS Essex I'm building now, 20 and 40mm guns will be my least favorite due to repetition).

-Devin

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Posted by mfsob on Saturday, March 11, 2006 2:37 PM

Since all of my shipbuilding efforts to date, and into the foreseeable future, will be 1/700 scale, it's the same thing - the photoetch.

I love how "finished" and lifelike those little bits of brass and stainless steel can make even a model that small look, what a drastic contrast it is to the efforts of my youth (we are not going to go there.)

And I hate it because of the hours of sweating and effort involved in assembling and painting an intricate PE part, or even getting a long run of railing bent just the way it needs to be.

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Posted by Yankee Clipper on Saturday, March 11, 2006 6:06 PM
My most enjoyment comes from building the hull, whether its POB,POF or B&B. When I hold a completed hull in my hands I feel I am looking at a piece of art. My least enjoyable task is cleaning up Britannia metal pieces if I am using them in a current project. When I attach the brass name plate on the red oak board it is a grand feeling, followed by a toast, then on to the next project.
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Posted by cthulhu77 on Saturday, March 11, 2006 6:34 PM

  Dislike the most ?  Cleaning up flash...the time spent carving away with a #11 makes me ill...tedious times twelve !

  Favourite bit?  Probably doing the rigging, as I like to tie flies for fishing too, it gives me a chance to use both skills.

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