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Smithsonian USS Constitution Model...Where?

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Smithsonian USS Constitution Model...Where?
Posted by Leftie on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 4:10 PM
I'm going to D.C. this weekend and would like to see the Smithsonian Constitution Model. Does anyone know where exactly its located? Thanks In Advance.
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Posted by Gerarddm on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 8:23 PM

Look at the Smithsonian's Website.

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Posted by jtilley on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 9:48 PM

Be prepared for disappointment.  Unless things have changed since I went to the Smithsonian last June, the model isn't there.

The Smithsonian's ship models are (or used to be) exhibited in two separate sections within the Museum of American History.  The "Hall of Maritime Enterprise," on the ground floor, covers civilian maritime pursuits - merchant shipping, whaling, fishing, riverboats, ocean liners, clipper ships, etc.  That gallery was installed in the late seventies, and hasn't been changed much since.  It contains quite a few ship models, most of them dating from the mid-twentieth century - part (though by no means all) of the collection built up by the late, great Howard I. Chapelle when he was curator there.  As I understand it the gallery is due for an extensive renovation in the near future.  (I suppose it's possible that it's closed now; it would be a good idea to check before going.)

On the top floor of the same building there used to be a gallery devoted to the history of the American armed forces.  That's where the models of warships - including the Constitution, and the spectacular 1/48 Missouri - were displayed.  That gallery was put up in the fifties and sixties.  Originally it was supposed to tell the story of the American military from the beginning to the present day, but before it was finished the institution's interest started to wane.  (Chapelle passed away, and during the Vietnam War military history wasn't the most popular subject among the public - or the Smithsonian's benefactors.)   By the nineties the exhibition was looking pretty tired.  There was, in fact, quite a bit of criticism to the effect that the Smithsonian wasn't doing justice to the armed forces.

That criticism was one of several factors that, just a few years ago, led to the removal of the old armed forces exhibition and the installation of a new, blockbuster gallery called "The Price of Freedom:  The History of America's Wars."  It opened last spring, and I got to see it in June.  In general my opinion of it is extremely high.  It contains some spine-tingling artifacts (George Washington's and Andrew Jackson's uniforms, Phil Sheridan's horse, a bullet-perforated tree trunk from the Battle of Chickamauga, a WWII Jeep suspended from the ceiling, a Huey helicopter that saw action in Vietnam, a North Vietnamese prison guard's uniform, etc., etc.).  And the exhibition techniques are state-of-the-art.  I've got a minor quibble about the treatment of the Jefferson administration.  One exhibit case is devoted to the Lewis and Clark expedition (semi-military, it seems to me), but two events that I think are pretty important got left out:  the Barbary Wars (first time the military forces of the newly created U.S. went into action overseas) and the founding of West Point.  But in general I think the gallery covers American military history about as thoroughly and objectively as it could be covered in that amount of space.

Bad news:  almost all of the old warship models are gone.  I remember seeing Alfred Brownell's Rattlesnake, the Maine, and maybe a Civil War ironclad.  That's about it.  It seems that ship models just aren't "in" among the current generation of exhibit designers.

I don't know where all those models (there were dozens in the old gallery) went.  When the Smithsonian takes artifacts off exhibition it generally makes them available to other institutions; it's likely that some, at least, of those models can be seen in other museums in the Washington area (or elsewhere).  I only got a few days there last spring, so I didn't get around much.

Two other Washington-area sites belong on the itinerary of any ship model enthusiast.  One - the Navy Museum in the Washington Navy Yard.  It's a big, well-run place with a good ship model collection.  (As a matter of fact I think I recall reading recently that the big Missouri ended up there - but I may be mistaken about that.)  Definitely worth at least a couple of hours.  Two - though it requires a side trip of about 35 miles, any ship model buff needs to beg spousal/family permission for a pilgimage to the U.S. Naval Academy Museum at Annapolis.  When you get there you need to make two stops in the same building:  the museum itself on the main floor of Preble Hall, and the (relatively) new Rogers Gallery in the basement.  The latter contains the most spectacular collection of seventeenth- and eighteenth-century English "Board Room" models outside Britain, now exhibited in a gallery that does them justice.  An absolute "must see."  And right next door is the Naval Institute Bookstore, where you can run up a credit card debt that you won't be able to pay off in this lifetime.

But don't go to the Smithsonian expecting to see a distinguished collection of ship models.  On second thought - better see the merchant ships in the "Hall of Maritime Enterprise" while they're still there.  Something tells me they may not survive the upcoming renovation.

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Posted by rcboater on Thursday, March 9, 2006 10:58 AM

Regarding the model-- I understand that it was the source for the big Revell kit, and that the Revell kit is a faithful replica.   I also understand that the model represents the ship circa 1814.

What color is the gunport hull strips?   Is it white, off white, or yellow ochre?

What color are the insides of the bulwarks-- dark green like ths ship is now?

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Posted by devinj on Thursday, March 9, 2006 12:57 PM
 jtilley wrote:

(George Washington's and Andrew Jackson's uniforms, Phil Sheridan's horse, a bullet-perforated tree trunk from the Battle of Chickamauga, a WWII Jeep suspended from the ceiling, a Huey helicopter that saw action in Vietnam, a North Vietnamese prison guard's uniform, etc., etc.). 

They have what?  Sheridan's horse?  I assume you mean the one from "Sheridan's Ride", can't remember his mount's name right now for that event.

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Posted by jtilley on Thursday, March 9, 2006 2:23 PM

Regarding the Constitution model - it's been a long, long time since I last saw it.  My recollection, though, is that the stripe on the hull was a pale but pretty pure yellow (not yellow ochre), and that the exteriors of the gunport lids were the same color (not black).  I'm pretty sure the insides of the bulwarks were white.

That scheme isn't necessarily correct.  Quite a bit of research about the ship has been done since the model was built (in the late fifties or early sixties, I believe).

Yep, Sheridan's horse is in the "Price of Freedom" exhibition.  I don't remember his name, but he's actually been a fixture at the Smithsonian for a long time.  The taxidermist did a good job on him.

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Posted by jwintjes on Thursday, March 9, 2006 3:40 PM
 jtilley wrote:

Yep, Sheridan's horse is in the "Price of Freedom" exhibition.  I don't remember his name, but he's actually been a fixture at the Smithsonian for a long time.  The taxidermist did a good job on him.



Incidentally that's not entirely uncommon. The Stockholm Royal Armoury has Streiff, Gustavus Adolphus' charger among its exhibits (although it's more of a stuffed hide than a preserved animal). Quite a big mount for a Swedish-bred horse

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Posted by Leftie on Thursday, March 9, 2006 3:46 PM

Thanks to all. I'm taking off tomorrow for DC. Sorry I can't see the model but there's plenty other things to photograph.

  And a special note to Jtilley...I've taken what you said to heart..."Building a sailing ship is not a race". I remember that quote everytime I want to take shortcuts with my USS Constitution model. Thanks for your time and inspiration.

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Posted by jtilley on Thursday, March 9, 2006 10:52 PM

The Smithsonian "Price of Freedom" exhibition includes at least one other formerly living critter:  Cher Ami, the carrier pigeon who was instrumental in saving the Lost Battalion in World War I. 

"Building a sailing ship is not a race...."  Nice, worthwhile thought - but I can't claim credit for it.  In fact I don't recall having heard it before.  I may hang it over my workbench.

Leftie - have a good trip.  If your interest in modeling goes beyond ships, be sure to visit the National Air and Space museum.  It contains some superb models of WWI aircraft, the Spirit of St. Louis, and several others - including the Hindenburg that was made for the movie.  Also two extremely distinguished Enterprise models:  a 1/100 scale version of the modern carrier, and the starship that was used in the filming of the original TV series.  Just watch out for Washington traffic - and if you park on the Mall near the museums, pay strict attention to the time limits.  Those DC parking police are vicious.

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Posted by Leftie on Friday, March 10, 2006 5:07 AM

Jtilley...Not your quote,eh? Well, that kind 'a killed the moment. I did a forum seach and it was actually Spelunko (Robert) that wrote those words. Still, thanks for your imput.

  Rest assured I'm going to see both aviation museums since airplanes are my first love. More later I'm sure...

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Posted by mfsob on Friday, March 10, 2006 7:54 AM

"But don't go to the Smithsonian expecting to see a distinguished collection of ship models.  On second thought - better see the merchant ships in the "Hall of Maritime Enterprise" while they're still there.  Something tells me they may not survive the upcoming renovation."

I hear you, jtilley, and what's sad is when I was a kid, seeing all of those big, detailed models made a HUGE impression on me that survives to this day - I think seeing all the intricate merchant ships, and especially the tankers with all their pipes and plumbing, is what has steered me into the "non-glamorous" models - the Victory and Liberty ships, the tankers, the troop transports - since I've started back in the hobby. As I was building the model of my Dad's Victory ship, I was thinking, Yeah, maybe the carriers and the destroyers won the battles, but the LaCrosse Victory really won the war.

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Posted by jmcquate on Friday, March 10, 2006 11:56 AM
Little Phil's horse's name was "Reinze" (sp). I work a couple of blocks from American History. The ship model collection is not bad. There is a mix of mechant and military. If you are planning to visit the Navy Yard, call ahead. It has been closed for renivations and it is not open on weekends. The Marine Corps museum at the Navy Yard has been relocated to the New Museum of the Marine Corps located at Quantico, VA (about 30 minutes south of DC). I'm not sure when it's scheduled to open. I drove past it a couple of weeks ago and it is in a huge new building.
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