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Hybrid Models
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 15, 2006 2:28 PM

Gentleman,

Is there any group of modelers that concentrate on hybrid models: i.e., combining the best parts of plastic models with wooden parts or kits? I know you can't talk about this in wooden ship model forums but surely this forum is not that narrow minded.

I have seen some posts about laying wooden deck planking to replace plastic deck sections but I was wondering if there is anything more formal going on where one can look for hints or advice.

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  • From: vernon hills illinois
Posted by sumpter250 on Saturday, April 15, 2006 2:42 PM

   And I thought I was the only strange one who would hand lay a wood deck in a plastic ship! I have a Lindberg, "armed schooner Sandpiper" that I'm rebuilding (freelance) to represent a small coaster, with wood decks, and masts. I also used a wood mast on a Pyro "skipjack". Some day, I will get around to building the Marx "Sea Witch", with hand laid wood decks, plank-on-frame boats, and all wood masts and spars, along with the plastic deck houses and some of the plastic fittings That I still have.

Pete

Lead me not into temptation ..................I can find it myself

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  • From: Greenville,Michigan
Posted by millard on Saturday, April 15, 2006 7:29 PM

I usually change out my mast and yards to wood.Also use brass to make some of smaller delicate parts where I can.I've not laid a wood deck yet.I normally use artist oils and wood stains on my ships makes them look like real wood.Once a year I do build one straight out of the box  for fun.

Rod

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  • From: vernon hills illinois
Posted by sumpter250 on Saturday, April 15, 2006 10:25 PM

On the Pyro "Skipjack", I used a wood mast,and boom, brass chainplates, boom band,and bail, and a brass traveler for the jib. This isn't the best picture(compression) but I think it will do; www.railimages.com/gallery/peterjuengst/aav

Pete

Lead me not into temptation ..................I can find it myself

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  • From: arizona
Posted by cthulhu77 on Sunday, April 16, 2006 8:39 AM

   Yep, you'll find a lot of us here who mix the two...sometimes, you just have to !  I've only done one planked deck on a styrene hull, and to be honest with you, I doubt I'll do another...but for the masts and fittings, etc, you can't go wrong with some replacements.

 

                    greg

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 16, 2006 10:58 AM

Hi Greg,

Did you run in to trouble trying to put deck planks on a styrene hull or do you think it is just not worth the bother.

 

thanks,

Don

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  • From: Biloxi, Mississippi
Posted by Russ39 on Sunday, April 16, 2006 12:02 PM
Popman:
First of all, I think you can go onto any of the public Yahoo shipmodeling forums and talk about both plastic and wood shipmodeling. They are not at all sqeamish about that sort of thing. The Seaways list of the Ship Modeler's Forum would be good choices if you wanted to try this discussion elsewhere. Both are very welcoming to all mediums of ship construction.

Granted, Drydockmodels is a wooden ships only forum, but that guy owns that forum and pays for it out of his own pocket mostly, so I cannot blame him for wanting to have only wooden ships discussed if it is what he wants. He owns it, he pays for it, its his party.

Now, I have seen (and have thought of doing it myself one day) wooden decks on a plastic ship model. In fact, it was a model of the Constitution I saw in a local museum several years back. Its really not that big a deal to do, provided you can marry the wood deck beams to the plastic hull. I think if I were to do it, I would run a strip of basswood along the interior of the hull just below where the deck beams would sit and attach with CA. Just measure down at a few points along the side from where those plastic deck support tabs are and make sure that the tops of the deck beams would come no higher than the tops of the tabs. Then, lay the wood deck beams onto that strip, as it would act as a ledge or beam shelf as they call it. You can use wood glue from that point on as it will all be a wood to wood connection.

Hope this helps.

Russ


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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 16, 2006 6:02 PM

Hi Russ,

I guess I was a little rough in calling some of the folks in DDM narrowminded and I apoligize for that. It was just exciting to find this forum where hybrid  model discussions are sure to be openly received.

I am building the Revell 96/1 model where I am currently working on the rigging and also building the same model from scratch. This may explain why I was inquiring about what other modelers have done combining the two types of models.

 

Thanks,

 

Don

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Biloxi, Mississippi
Posted by Russ39 on Sunday, April 16, 2006 6:56 PM

Don:

No problem here.

 

As I said in another recent post, I remember building that Revell kit many years ago. I would not mind doing it again if I were going to bash it a bit with the composite construction. That would make it very interesting. I would also like to scratch build her as well. I have the plans, now all I need is the time..... 

I would be interested in seeing your progress on either build. Its all very interesting to me. :)

 

Russ

 

 

 

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