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1/120 "Black Falcon" armed brig - Work in progress pics
Posted by EPinniger on Saturday, April 29, 2006 8:29 AM
Here's a few photos of my 1/120 scale "Black Falcon" brigantine built from the SMER kit, a re-issue of a 1950s Aurora mould. So far I have completed and painted the hull - next stage will be to fit the masts, cannons, other fittings, and rigging.

The first image is linked, the other 3 need to be clicked on to view them (saves page loading time for 56k users like me!)



http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~pinniger/models/ship/bfalcon2.jpg

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~pinniger/models/ship/bfalcon3.jpg

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~pinniger/models/ship/bfalcon4.jpg

I was advised not to buy this kit by jtilley (definitely this forum's sailing ship expert), who recommended various Lindberg and Pyro kits instead - see below for why I ignored expert advice and still ended up buying this crude + outdated kit.

Firstly, I know very little about historic sailing ships, my main modelling interests are WW2 and earlier aircraft, tanks and warships. I decided to build this for three main reasons - thirdly, I have two large Revell ship models, the Constitution and Cutty Sark (the former an eBay bargain, the latter a gift) which I would like to build in the fairly near future, but was reluctant to tackle a large, complex model of a subject I've never attempted before.
I also thought a sailing ship might be an interesting challenge to build + paint - painting the largely wooden hull and fittings would require quite different skills to painting a 20th century steel warship.

Basically, this is the cheapest kit you can buy in in the UK or Europe of a sailing warship in a reasonably large scale. Its RRP is £3.99 (a bit under $10), the only other kits in this price range are assorted Heller and Airfix "series 1" ships, which apart from being tiny (usually 1/300 to 1/600 in scale) are normally incredibly crude - Airfix's "Golden Hind" is the first injection-moulded kit this company ever produced.
Kits like the Lindberg "Jolly Roger", and the others mentioned above, are very hard to find on this side of the Atlantic, unless you buy on eBay from a US seller, which adds significantly to the cost due to postage.

The "Black Falcon" was apparently Captain Kidd's ship - whether the model actually represents this ship or not, I have no idea, but from what I have read the ship is a brig/brigantine or two-masted frigate. It looks quite similar to the Lindberg "Jolly Roger" kit which is apparently a French frigate, though it is smaller and has fewer guns.

The only reference photos I have are some of the Mantua wooden kit (seen here - http://www.woodenmodelships.com/ni-087.shtml ), which is about the same scale. I'm not sure how accurate a representation of the ship this is (based on jtilley's recent comments on wooden ship kits!) but it was all I could find.

Hence instead of "accurising" the kit I concentrated simply on cleaning it up and replacing or refining some of the cruder
parts of the kit. I also removed the Jolly Roger and the Black Falcon (very crudely moulded in any case) as I wanted the model to represent a "generic" light naval warship rather than a pirate vessel.

The gun ports were drilled out and I added lower decks (visible through the skylights). I didn't add the 6 missing cannons, I briefly considered casting them in white metal but decided against this as I wanted to keep this project simple and straightforward. The aft skylight was also drilled out and I removed some of the moulded deck detail. I also reshaped the bow to match the Mantua model, lowering the angle of the bowsprit significantly. The bow will need further modification in order to attach the figurehead.

Much cleaning up of flash, moulding seams, etc. was required on virtually every part, and the hull had a large number of sink marks which required a fair bit of putty to fix.
Masts and fittings have also been cleaned up and in some cases reshaped/detailed, these are not fitted or painted yet however.

The model is painted with Tamiya and Revell acrylics, metallic paints are Citadel/Games Workshop and weathering was done with artist's acrylics and oil washes. The deck was painted with medium brown then drybrushed with a lighter greyish-brown, finally given a diluted black oil wash. Gilding was represented by first painting black, then drybrushing heavily with a dark,  brassy gold colour, next lightly drybrushing with a brighter gold, and finally retouching the black around the edges.

It is painted more or less according to the kit instructions, whether these are accurate or not I'm not sure but they seem to match the colours described here - http://home.att.net/~ShipModelFAQ/ - fairly closely. The colour scheme seems more appropriate to a naval craft than a pirate ship.

More photos when the ship is finished! Apologies for the very long post.

Feedback would be greatly appreciated from anyone with more knowledge of wooden sailing vessels than me! It looks nice to me so far but for all I know it could be about as accurate as a Spitfire Mk.1 with a 5-bladed prop, bubble canopy and D-Day markings.

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Posted by schoonerbumm on Saturday, April 29, 2006 1:04 PM

Ahhrrrgggg!  The Black Falcon is about as representative of a historically accurate 17th or 18th century sailing vessel as Captain Hook is of a real pirate!.   I picked up the Black Falcon off e-bay on one of my naive "I can kit-bash this into something" moments. To make an accurate ship out of this puppy requires melting it down and reinjecting it into another mold.

But, the kit is fun. From a popular perspective, it's what a pirate ship should have looked like. It's only missing the plank sticking out from the waist. Burt Lancaster or Robert Shaw would have loved to have sailed this boat. I used to crew on the Lady Washington (aka HMS Interceptor) and 90% of our battle sail customers came out to sail on  a pirate ship. Both kids and adults show up wearing outrageous costumes. When Pirates of the Caribbean came out business skyrocketed. When Master & Commander came out, we barely noticed.  If the Lady looked like the Black Falcon instead of a historically accurate brig, battle sail business would probably double.

So I'd recommend building it with the Jolly Roger flying to let historically accurate anal types know that your tongue was planted firmly in your cheek when you built it. But do build it, I think you're doing a great job and the kit makes a good looking model.  Plus it's a good kit to experiment on.

 

Alan

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Posted by ABARNE on Saturday, April 29, 2006 6:19 PM

That sure brings back memories.  I had one those thirty odd years ago as a kid.  I am sure that as far as accuracy is concerned, it's for the birds.  On the other hand, your build of it is looking great thus farThumbs Up [tup], so have fun with it and you'll probably have a pretty nifty looking ship.

Andy

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Posted by EPinniger on Sunday, April 30, 2006 1:04 PM
Thanks for the comments! Never thought I'd get a reply from someone who actually works on a real ship of this type (if a replica!) I can definitely understand your feelings about this kit; the more familiar you are with a subject, the more you notice inaccuracies and errors in a model of it. 5 years ago, I could barely tell the difference between a Spitfire and a Hurricane, now I can identify most versions of either at a glance. I'm a complete novice to the subject of sailing ships (I only started modelling 20th-century warships a year ago)

To my completely inexpert eye, it looks (after the general cleanup and minor modifications/improvements I made to the kit) like a reasonable representation of a small 18th-century sailing warship. And I enjoyed building it and have learnt a lot about painting and weathering wooden sailing craft, which will be very helpful when building my other (much less inaccurate) sailing ship kits. Hence I don't think it was a waste of my £3.99!

The Mantua wooden model of the Black Falcon actually looks very similar to the plastic kit. The main difference I can see (other than the bow and bowsprit) is the aft gallery/cabin (not sure of the correct term) is further aft and different in appearance on the plastic kit.
Of course, given what I've heard about wooden ship kits, especially European ones, it could be that Mantua's kit isn't a much more accurate representation than Aurora's.

Anyway, the model is near complete so I should have some photos of the finished article in under a week. Currently just need to fit and paint the yards, anchors, wheel and figurehead.
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Posted by jtilley on Sunday, April 30, 2006 9:23 PM

I wouldn't dream of suggesting that somebody not buy or build a kit just because I don't like it.  Picking a modeling project ought to be an entirely personal decision on the part of the modeler.  I just think modelers are entitled to go into projects with their eyes open.  On more than one occasion when I was younger I spent a great deal of time on a kit only to find out later that it suffered from some serious problems with historical accuracy.  (If I'd read a competent review of the Heller Soleil Royal, for instance, in advance, I never would have bought it - let alone spent two years working on it.) 

EPinniger has done a remarkable job with this old fossil of a kit - and I can easily understand why he regarded it as a good starter project.  It makes a lot more sense to break into the hobby with something like this - a project that costs relatively little, takes a few weeks, and provides valuable experience - than to start out by spending vast sums of money on one of the big, sophisticated kits.  Better to learn some basic skills on a small, relatively simple kit than to be disappointed with the results one gets from a big, expensive one - or, worse, get discouraged and give up.

As to the historical aspects of all this - the vessel in question is a brig.  That means she has two masts, with square-rigged sails on both, and a fore-and-aft, gaff-and-boom-rigged mainsail attached directly to the mainmast.  (If she had no square-rigged yards on her mainmast, she'd be a brigantine.  If her fore-and-aft mainsail were rigged to a light "spencer mast" aft of the mainmast, she'd be a snow.  If she had a fore-and-aft, gaff-rigged sail on her foremast, she'd be a topsail schooner in American parlance - or simply a schooner by British definition.)  A frigate, in eighteenth-century terminology, by definition would have three masts.  This vessel is a brig (or brig-of-war, or armed brig).

I'm not absolutely sure, but I think the name "Black Falcon" orginated with Aurora's marketing department.  I haven't read the story of Captain Kidd in quite a few years, but I don't think a ship of that name was associated with him.  The Mantua kit, I suspect, is based on the Aurora one. Wood ship kit enthusiasts are sometimes disillusioned to discover that those hideously expensive continental European plank-on-bulkhead kits often owe their origins to plastic ones.  The most notorious example is the Mamoli "H.M.S. Beagle," which quite obviously is a ripoff of an old Revell kit.  Several other extremely expensive continental kits are pretty clearly based on Heller plastic ones. 

The story of Captain Kidd, by the way, is one of the great myths of maritime history.  There's no firm evidence that he ever committed an act of piracy. 

William Kidd was a successful New York businessman and merchant captain who, in 1695, was hired by a syndicate of wealthy merchants and government officials to head an expedition to the east coast of Africa.  His mission was to root out the considerable number of pirates who, based on the island of Madagascar, were preying on the ships of the East India Company.  Britain was at war with France at the time, and Kidd also was commissioned as a privateer - that is, he had the English government's approval to seize merchant ships that were sailing under the French flag.  (Privateering was a lucrative - and perfectly legal - business in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries.)  He and his ship, the Adventure Galley, ran into all sorts of problems, ranging from bad weather to disease to a semi-mutinous crew.  One day, after more than a year at sea, Kidd got into an altercation with an insubordinate sailor, clobbered him over the head with a bucket (probably in self-defense), and killed him.  Sometime later Kidd captured an Armenian merchant ship; he always claimed it was sailing under French documents, but when word of that development and the alleged "murder" reached England Kidd was branded a pirate.  He returned to Boston with the intent of clearing his name, and was promptly placed under arrest.  In all probability, Kidd was the victim of a combination of politics and irritation on the part of the businessmen who had invested in his expedition.  They trumped up a series of charges against him and transported him to England, where he was tried and hanged for piracy.  His activities near the end of his disastrous voyage may have come uncomfortably close to the line between legality and illegality, but the consensus among modern historians is that he probably was innocent of the charges.  It has, for instance, been established that the questionable prizes he took were indeed sailing under French passes. 

Oh - and there's no sound reason to believe that he ever buried any treasure anywhere.

The literature about pirates and piracy is, of course vast, and I don't claim to be familiar with more than a small fraction of it.  Good places to start, though include The Pirates (a volume in the nicely illustrated Time-Life Books series, The Seafarers), Pirate:  Rascals of the Spanish Main, by A.B.C. Whipple (a really fun, and reasonably well-researched book that was my personal introduction to the subject, back when I was in high school), and David Cordingly's Under the Black Flag.  I particular recommend the latter book.  Mr. Cordingly was the curator in charge of the enormously popular exhibition on piracy at the National Maritime Museum of Greenwich, back in the early nineties.  His book traces not only the stories of the most famous actual pirates but the development of the mythology surrounding piracy - including such influential luminaries as Long John Silver and Captain Hook.  Entertaining, informative reading.

Enjoy the model, and learn from it.  That's what the hobby is supposed to be about.  Good luck.

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Posted by sirdrake on Sunday, April 30, 2006 10:39 PM
EPinniger,

just to join the various posts here saying that a cheap kit is maybe the best way to get started. This makes one feel relaxed about  it, and there are no worries about historical accuracies, or sleepless nights wondering about which shade of brown to paint these gunports.
I started the same way, building the infamous Revell "HMS Beagle". To my excuse, it was a very spontaneous buy, and the first model I bought (and built!) for some 20 years. I had been interested in sailing ships for some time, but only after seeing the son if a friend building armor models, smelling the glue and feeling the sprue, it came to me that I could just build a little ship for fun. So I ran into the hobby shop, and the Beagle was the first one I saw. Being a Biologist by profession, what better ship could there be than Darwin's Beagle? Anyway, t's been mentioned previously in this topic that the Revell kit is just a shameless re-issue of the Bounty, with some parts changed. After I read about this in this forum, it became clear to me why the deck was so strangely shaped, and why I was supposed to fill some holes in the hull, just to drill them again half an inch beside their previous places. It built to a nice little kit, and none of my friends looking at it can tell a sheet from a tack anyway Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]. It was a good learning experience, helped a lot for the next kit (Revell's old "Golden Hind", 99% finished), and the "Cutty Sark" and the "Constitution" are waiting on the shelf...

Have fun,

SD


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Posted by EPinniger on Monday, May 1, 2006 7:26 AM
I didn't realise that a brig was actually a different class of ship to a brigantine; I assumed it was simply an abbreviated form of the word "brigantine" - thanks for the info! I also never realised that the mast number and rigging  a sailing ship is, rather than the tonnage, size or combat role.

 jtilley wrote:
The most notorious example is the Mamoli "H.M.S. Beagle," which quite obviously is a ripoff of an old Revell kit. 


That's almost unbelievable... I know commercial wooden ship kits are notoriously inaccurate, but I didn't think they'd actually go as far as copying possibly the worst example of an inaccurate plastic sailing ship kit.

edit: Also not sure what's wrong with the image links, they aren't "clickable" - you'll need
to copy and paste them into your browser address bar to view the pics.
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Posted by scottrc on Monday, May 1, 2006 7:37 AM
Hi,
It is great to see you put your talents into a less modeled subject.  I too will support anyone who buys ANY plastic, or wood, kit in order to build it for enjoyment and to gain experience.  I cannot count how many of those little Life-Like kits I built to practice color and rigging techniques on because they were in-expensive, fun to build, and easy to construct in a short time frame.

In regards to the Revell Beagle / Bounty / kit from the imanginary mind of the Revell designers.  This kit is one of my favorites to construct in reference to how fast and simple the construction is.  I too would also reccommend the Mayflower and Charles Morgan.  I would encourage any smaller, less accurate, less detailed kits to someone who is just starting as a stepping stone towards the Constititution and Cutty Sark kits for they will give you yhe feel of how plastic model sailing ships go together in regards to putting hull halves together, setting up masts and spars, and other phases of construction without the worry of messing up a large, 3' model like the big Revell kits.

Have fun guys with your builds.

Scott



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Posted by cthulhu77 on Monday, May 1, 2006 8:43 AM

  very, very nice job on a small kit !  I actually enjoy building that size more than I do the monsters (ie:the constitution at 36"), and they are FUN !  Yours is looking great, love the colour choices...it'll look alive just sitting on a shelf.

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Posted by jtilley on Monday, May 1, 2006 9:48 PM

Regarding Mantua, Mamoli, et al - I'll resist the temptation to launch into another one of my insomnia-curing rants against continental European plank-on-bulkhead kit manufacturers and let the following link speak for me:  http://www.naut-res-guild.org/piracy2.htm

That article is more than twenty years old now.  Unfortunately, though, Dr. McDonald's observations are as valid now as they were when he wrote them.  (One minor exception:  the Sergal Sovereign of the Seas kit, which is the centerpiece of his diatribe, is now sold by Mantua.)

Those kits are notorious among serious scale ship modelers.  The "Beagle" may be among the worst of the genre, but frankly I've never seen a kit from any of those companies that I'd allow in my house. 

For those who do want to make the transition from plastic to wood kits, I (like lots of other ship modelers; these opinions are in no way unique to me) can honestly recommend four companies.  Three are American:  Model Shipways, Bluejacket, and the recently reincarnated A.J. Fisher.  The other is British:  Caldercraft, aka Jotika.  The latter is a relatively new but ambitious firm; its kits are extremely expensive, and hard to find in the U.S.  (I've never actually seen one, but on the basis of photos and reviews they appear to be excellent.)  MS, Bluejacket, and Fisher have been around for many decades. (Bluejacket is celebrating its 100th anniversary this year.)  They don't offer all the fancy, gingerbread-laden subjects that the European firms do, but these American companies understand the basic principles of scale modeling.  The continental p-o-b companies have something other than scale fidelity at the head of their list of priorities.  I sometimes wonder, in fact, whether the people running those firms know what a scale model is.

When I was working in a hobby shop (more years ago than I care to think about), I used to tell customers "most of the plastic sailing ship kits on the market are, in terms of historical accuracy, junk - and most of the wood kits are worse."  I've never found any reason to change that opinion.  I wish the plastic kit industry offered a range of sailing ship kits that offered the modeler a huge choice in terms of size, complexity, and variety of subject matter.  In the ideal world there would be a dozen or so different kits appropriate for newcomers - kits representing ships from a variety of periods and geographic regions, selling for reasonable prices, and representing their subjects accurately.  Unfortunately that world doesn't exist, and I'm not optimistic that it ever will.  That being the case, we might as well accept that kits like the "Black Falcon" and those ancient Pyro/Lindberg offerings are the best available for the purpose.

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Posted by sirdrake on Monday, May 1, 2006 10:27 PM
 jtilley wrote:

The most notorious example is the Mamoli "H.M.S. Beagle," which quite obviously is a ripoff of an old Revell kit.

Just got the new ModelExpo catalog. Obviously the Mamoli "Golden Hind" also is a 100% copy of the old Revell "Golden Hind" kit.

SD

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Posted by jtilley on Monday, May 1, 2006 11:22 PM

Sirdrake - I think you're right.  Two things keep me from blasting Mamoli quite as loudly on this one, though.  First - the Revell Golden Hind, in my opinion at least, is excellent; this time Mamoli picked something good to copy.  Second - I'm not at all sure the design is original to Revell.  As you probably know, there's scarcely any firm factual evidence about the real Golden Hind.  (The latest scholarly biographer of Drake, Harry Kelsey, isn't even convinced that the ship ever actually bore than name.  Kelsey thinks she may have kept her original name, Pelican, throughout her voyage around the world.)  Several competent people have undertaken reconstructions of the vessel.  The Revell one looks a lot like a set of plans published quite a few years ago by Franco Gay (before 1965 - I think - when the Revell kit was issued), and for a while Scientific was selling a Golden Hind kit that (unlike most Scientific products) featured a nice, believable set of plans by George Campbell.  There seems to be an intricate "family tree" of Golden Hind reconstructions stretching back at least fifty years.  I don't have copies of any of those plans, but I think Revell may have based its kit on one (or maybe more than one) of them.  At any rate, the Revell designers clearly knew what they were doing.  It's a lovely little kit. 

To give Mamoli the benefit of the doubt, I suppose it's possible that the Revell and Mamoli designers worked from some common source.  But it's just as believable - and certainly consistent with the company's behavior - that Mamoli simply copied the Revell kit.  Of one thing I'm quite certain:  whatever the origin of that wood kit may be, Mamoli won't tell us.  Those continental companies are utterly notorious for their unwillingness to talk to modelers.  Makes one wonder if they have something to hide....

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Posted by sirdrake on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 9:04 AM
Jtilley, that all makes sense. How the Golden Hind really looked like, nobody exactly knows. Having spent the last couple of months building the Revell kit, I am a bit familiar with it, and it seems the Mamoli and Revell kits are identical  to the last detail (except for the rigging).  Have you seen the Franco Gay or Geroge Campbell plans? Are they as detasiled as the kits?

SD

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Posted by jtilley on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 9:59 AM

Yikes.  I've seen both those sets of plans, but it's been a long, long time.  The Campbell plans were included in the old kit from Scientific (which has long since gone out of business).  I remember looking at them during an idle moment when I was working in a hobby shop - so that must have been between 1975 and 1980.  I think I saw the Franco Gay plans in a book at about the same time - and I haven't seen it since.  I think they're in the Taubman Plans Service catalog (www.taubmansonline.com), but for a higher price than I'm interested in paying at the moment.  My recollection is that the Gay plans were extremely detailed (including lots of information about the below-decks spaces - all highly conjectural).  The Campbell drawings obviously were intended as instructions for the Scientific kit, but I remember thinking that it was a pretty good, reasonably detailed one - far better than most of the Scientific ship kits I'd seen.

I suspect there's an interesting little detective project waiting to be done regarding reconstructed Golden Hind plans.  My guess is that several of them have been copied from each other, but it would take quite a bit of effort to figure out who copied what.  In any case, all the good ones, almost by definition, can be traced back to one source:  "Fragments of Ancient Shipwrightry," a manuscript by a man named Matthew Baker in one of the museums at Oxford.  The drawings and paintings in that document are, as I understand it, the only surviving English ship plans from the Tudor period.  (The Baker drawings are, in fact, generally referred to as "the oldest plans of English ships.")  It's quite obvious that the Revell kit is based, directly or indirectly, on those pictures.  They apparently depict a large English galleon of the Armada era; the Revell designers (or whatever modern draftsman drew the plans on which they based the kit) apparently started with the assumption that a tiny vessel like the Golden Hind would be, in essence, a smaller version of that same basic hull shape.  That assumption may or may not have been correct, but I don't know of any alternative approach to the problem.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 12:50 PM
I just finished the Taurus, a solid hull steam tugboat by  Model Shipways. The directions and the kit were disasters-missing pieces,incorrect measurements, incorrect sequence of instructions.  Now I'm building the Jotika/Caldercraft Sherbourne.  I bought it directly from Jotika but they have a U.S. distributor called Aeormarine,but they're almost impossible to get into contact with,as they don't answer emails and their one phone line is always busy.

The going price for the Taurus is $70,and they don't tell you in advance that the've removed the brass stanchions and railings which they'll be happy to sell you for an additional charge. If you look at the on-line instruction manual for the Taurus at the ModelExpo web site,the instructions include the stanchions. There is no indication that theyv'e been removed from the kit.

The Sherbourne is a plank-on-bulkhead model meant for beginners. It cost me $85.  The difference in cost vs. the Taurus is minimal but the difference in kit is dramatic. When I received my kit all pieces were there and the company responded immediately to my email questions about a couple of pieces which I couldn't identify. Each kit is individually registered, with a serial number, with the company so that if they change any instructions they will notify everyone who has one.  There are a few typos in the instructions,but nothing dramatic.  The pieces all fit but it's true the instructions may not be as detailed as one would want. Which leaves more room to the imaginations.  Overall I'm very pleased with the Caldercraft kit and very disappointed in the Model Expo kit.

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Posted by jtilley on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 2:01 PM

I'm disappointed to hear about the MS Taurus kit.  I'd been thinking about buying one; I'll reconsider.  That trick of deleting fittings that are described in the instructions really rubs me the wrong way.

Model Shipways used to be a tiny, extremely personal and friendly operation run by two first-rate gentlemen out of a small storefront in metro New Jersey.  I'm afraid that in the 25 years or so since Model Expo took it over it's gone downhill in some respects.  Some recent MS kits that I've seen have been excellent; others I'd have to call slightly better than marginal. 

The only one I've actually bought or built since the the Model Expo takeover is the pilot schooner Phantom.  I was attracted to it largely because it was being sold at that time (about four years ago) with a cast-resin hull, and I was curious to see how that idea worked.  I was generally satisfied with the kit, though it had some problems.  In this case some of the included fittings - I recall specifically a bag full of enormously oversized deadeye strop rings - were utterly irrelevant to the model.  And the resin hull did require quite a bit of work beyond what the instructions described to make it acceptable.  (There was no planking detail on the exterior, it didn't have the distinctive "step" at the base of the bulwarks, and the helmsman's cockpit, which was supposed to be sunk a couple of scale feet below deck level, was flush with the deck.)  I guess we have to accept that the products of any manufacturer are going to vary somewhat in quality.  Let the buyer beware.

Mr. Miller confirms my impression of Calder/Jotika.  I wish they had better distribution in the U.S.  They're acquiring an enviable reputation for quality materials, accuracy, sensible design, and fine customer service.

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Posted by Shipwreck on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 7:50 AM
 ABARNE wrote:

That sure brings back memories.  I had one those thirty odd years ago as a kid.  I am sure that as far as accuracy is concerned, it's for the birds.  On the other hand, your build of it is looking great thus farThumbs Up [tup], so have fun with it and you'll probably have a pretty nifty looking ship.


Andy




Yes, those memories. I built two of them more than forty years ago. It is a neat little kit, and EPinniger's is shaping up nicely.

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Posted by woodburner on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:07 PM
Black Falcon looks pretty neat, and your approach is right on the ball - accept it for what it is and get the experience. The black and ochre looks well on her. Imagine a larger, better quality kit of the same or similar design . . .

Professor, I saw the mamoli Golden Hind the other day at a local maritime museum, and it was one of the models that stood out, and for the wrong reasons. Its clearly the same design as Revell's, but done up in overscale wooden elements, something inherently wrong with the kit itself, and not the modeler's skills. I think the plastic Revell version must make a much finer model!

The design itself is very sound, and I think is a reasonable representation of a ship of the era, and particularly an English ship.

We may have a reasonable reference to the appearance original Golden Hind, at least a reference with better pedigree than most. The Jocodus Hondius map at UC Berkeley shows the route of Drake's voyage along with several small illustrations of his ship. Four show the vessel in various locations, while a fifth is simply a portrait. Hondius was working in London when he produced the map in the middle 1580s, and he knew Drake personally. In fact he painted several portraits of Drake and probably discussed the voyage at length while drawing the map. Being in London also allowed Hondius the opportunity to see the actual vessel, only a mile or so from his studio.

Hondius shows the Hind as a small three masted ship witha large outrigger at the stern, five gunports along the hull (two aft of the main shrouds), a low forecastle and high aftercastle. The hull shape is roughly like that of the Revell and Airfix models but the head is lower and there is no gallery at all. The upperworks of the aftercastle are decorated with two rows of decoration, divided by the rails: diagonal stripes on the lower row, with smaller designs on the upper. There is possibly a third row, and the after end, but this may also be railing. The line of the aftercastle is stepped three times, rather than two on the Revell/Mamoli/Airfix designs. It looks nothing like the replica that was built in the 1970s.

If I was to build a Golden Hind today or tomorrow, I'd follow that design - no guarantees, but at least it has a much better chance of being accurate than most.
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Posted by daveinthehat on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 1:16 PM
Good or bad kit, I think you've done a nice job with it. I almost screams 'pirate' when I look at it.
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Posted by modelbob on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:09 PM

 I love it! You did a great job. It brings back rich memories of of the old  (Ideal Model and Supply Co.) wooden kit I built as a teenager in the early 50's. It was the same ship but about 18 inches long with a precarved balsa hull, called the "Pirate Brig" and cost $6.50. Boucher Models made one also with a hardwood hull and lots of fittings and much more expensive. The Aurora Black Falcon was the first plastic ship I built. Seeing yours makes me want to go on ebay and find one and built it!

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Posted by Chuck Fan on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:27 PM
 jtilley wrote:

As to the historical aspects of all this - the vessel in question is a brig. 

 

And a quarter deck brig at that, which means she may be a good candidate for conversion to Patrick O'Brian's fictional Sophie. 

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Posted by EPinniger on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:03 AM

Surprised to see that this ancient thread has resurfaced! Thanks for the comments - but this model still looks very crude to me now, with its incredibly crude transom detail, solid ladders and fife rails, crude cannons + gunport lids, and other problems! As I mentioned before, though, it gave me very valuable experience with painting and rigging.
I finished the Black Falcon last year -  you can see the complete model in this thread. I posted this thread when I was still working on the model, however I replaced the "work in progress" photos with the completed ones when I uploaded them - hence the text in my first post doesn't match the pictures.
You can also see from my first post that when I wrote it I knew very little about sailing ships; I know now that "two-masted frigate" (although the description in SMER's instruction manual uses these exact words) makes about as much sense as "two-winged triplane" :D

I've since bought another of these kits which I'm going to kitbash into a more accurate representation of an 18th century Royal Navy brig, using the hull and spars from the kit and everything else scratchbuilt or taken from the spares box. I haven't (yet) read any of O'Brian's books, but from pictures I've seen of HMS Sophie, this looks like more or less the sort of ship I'm intending to build. 

 modelbob wrote:
The Aurora Black Falcon was the first plastic ship I built. Seeing yours makes me want to go on ebay and find one and built it!


DON'T pay collector's prices for an original Aurora kit if you can avoid it - you can get the SMER (Czech manufacturer) re-issue for about $8 here in the UK or Europe. I don't know if this kit is available anywhere in the USA, but even with shipping from Europe, the SMER kit will be cheaper than an Aurora one (unless you're lucky and get a cheap one at a model show or second-hand sale)

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Posted by Vagabond_Astronomer on Monday, August 10, 2009 10:01 PM

Great job, EP! It looks great!

You do realize, of course, that I am eyeing this kit for a project. The hull is suspiciously close to that of the American privateer "Rattlesnake"; trim down the hull sides, attack it with chisel, multiple tools and sure grit. Replace the deck, new masts...

Yes, call me crazy, but I would love a crack at this one...

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