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Modelling the Turkish Republican Navy ships
Posted by kapudan_emir_effendi on Sunday, May 14, 2006 11:22 PM

Hello everybody!

Just out of boredom after hours of writing my bachelor's thesis, I conjured a small list of Turkish navy warships from 1926 up to today along with a list of existing models that can be built or converted to Turkish ships. Here it is for your appreciation.

Ships in service in 1926:

Protected Cruisers:

Mecidiye class

Mecidiye: built 1901-03 by Cramp and sons USA. 3967 tons

Hamidiye: built 1903-05 by Armstrong Yard at Newcastle 3904 tons

Both carried 2x150 mm, 8x120 guns, 2x47mm TT. 22 knots

Seen heavy service 1911- 22. To reserve fleet in 1936, Stricken 1947

Torpedo craft

Peyk (Germania) class torpedo gunboats

Peyk-i Shevket and Berk-i Satvet

Built in 1906. 775 tons. 3x105 mm, 6x57 mm, 2x37 mm QF guns, 2x450 mm TT 22 knots

Heavy war service during WW 1, especially in convoy work at Sea of Marmara. Rebuilt as minelayers 1936-38. Stricken 1945

Samsun (Durandal) class torpedo boats

Samsun, Taşoz, Basra

Built in 1906 at Bordeaux and Nantes by Schneider-Creusot. 290 tons, 1x65 mm, 6x47 mm QF guns. 2x450mm TT

Originally 4 ships, Yarhisar was sunk in 1915. Saw heavy convoy work during WW 1. Both stricken in 1933

Ansaldo built 165 ton torpedo boats

Yunus

Akhisar

Draç

Musul

11 ships were comissioned 1902-04; they saw very heavy service during the Balkan wars and WW 1. 7 were lost. Remaining 4 were stricken in 1936.

Reis class gunboats

Built in France and entered service in 1914. Varying between 450-500 tons and armed with 100 and 75 mm guns, those 10 knot little ships had busy and long lives as patrol boats against Greek pirates and as convoy escorts during WW 1 and as gunrunners during the war of liberation. In the republican period, they became coast guard and survey ships; were stricken 1949-1955.

Composite hulled

Aydın Reis

Preveze

Sakız

Burak Reis

Metal hulled

İsa Reis

Kemal Reis

Hızır Reis

Minelayers

Selanik

İntibah

Nusrat

Selanik and İntibah were tugboats converted to minelayers in 1911-12. Nusrat was a Germania built minelayer and it was her mines which were decisive in foiling the naval attack to Dardanelles in 18 March 1915. Both were stricken and sold to civilian ship-owners. Intibah was later scrapped and Nusrat was rebuilt beyond recognition. While about to be scrapped, she was saved by a group of volunteers in 1999, rebuilt as close as possible to her original condition and now is a museum ship in Mersin, sole survivor of the Ottoman steam navy.

Republican naval rebuilding 1926 - 1947:

Reactivated: Battle cruiser Yavuz (ex-Goeben) in 1930, after 4 years of repairs and modernization in the new Gölcük naval yard. Flagship of the Turkish Navy 1930 - 1950, 1950 - 1963 training ship. Stricken in 1963, scrapped 1973.

Destroyers

Tepe (modified Folgore - Turbine) class destroyers

Adatepe & Tınaztepe, Folgore class: in service 1931 - 1954, built by Ansaldo of Genoa

Tınaztepe & Zafer, Turbine class: in service 1932 - 1957, built by Cantieri Navale Del Tirreno

4x12 mm, 2x 40 mm guns, 2x triple 450 mm TT. 40 mines

First modern surface warships of Republican Turkish navy, they formed the core of Turkish naval power during 1930s along with Yavuz.

WW 2 British naval aid destroyers

Although Turkey was neutral during WW 2, the republic signed a mutual friendship and non-aggression pact with France and Britain in 1939. The allied powers offered quantities of weapons both to bolster Turkish military power against a possible Axis attack and to ensure the neutrality of Turkey. This aid included 4 destroyers and 4 submarines by Britain. The destroyers were to be of the "Pre-war Standard" class (G, H and I classes). Of the four ships, two are given in 1942 and the other two are comissioned into the badly pressed Royal Navy as "Ithuriel" and "Inconstant". Inconstant survived the war and finally joined the Turkish navy in 1946. Ithuriel however, was sunk in 1942 and as a replacement "O" class HMS Oribi was given to Turkish navy in 1946 along with Inconstant. The four ships together served until 1960. In Turkish navy they were:

Sultanhisar

Demirhisar

Muavenet, (ex-Inconstant)

Gayret (ex-Oribi)

NATO aid Destroyers: 1947 - 1998

After WW 2, Stalin's open aggression towards Turkish sovereignty over the straits and the threat of land acquisition in the eastern frontiers pushed Turkey firmly into the Western camp in 1946-47. Turkey was included to the Marshall plan along with Greece in 1947 and became a full member of NATO in 1952. After 1947 US equipment began to flow into Turkish navy and this continued by and large up to today.

"G" (Gleaves) class destroyers, in service 1949 - 1979

Giresun (ex-McCalla)

Gelibolu (ex-Buchanan)

Gemlik (ex-Lardner)

Gaziantep (ex-Lansdowne)

Paşa (Milne) class destroyers (British)

In service 1959 - 1972

Alpaslan (ex-Milne)

Fevzi Çakmak (ex-Marne)

Kılıç Ali Paşa (ex-Matchless)

Piyale Paşa (ex-Meteor)

P.s: ships are named after famous Turkish commanders of history. Alpaslan is the Great Seljuk Sultan who won the decisive battle of Manzikert in 1071, Fevzi Çakmak is the venerable Field Marshal of the Turkish army during and after the war of Liberation until 1944, Kılıç Ali Paşa and Piyale Paşa are two Grand Admirals of Ottoman navy in 16th century.

"I" (Fletcher) class destroyers

In service 1967 - 1986

Istanbul (ex-Clarence K. Bronson)

Izmir (ex-Van Valkenburgh)

Izmit (ex-Cogswell)

Iskenderun (ex-Boyd)

Içel (ex-preston)

Zafer (Allen M. Sumner) class FRAM-II destroyers

In service 1972 - 1993

Zafer (ex-Hugh Purvis)

Muavenet (ex-Gwin)

Notice: Muavenet was struck by two sea sparrow missiles launched from USS Saratoga under mysterious circumstances during the Display Determination-92 maneuvers in the Aegean Sea (1.10.1992). Commander, 2 officers, 2 NCOs and 1 rating lost their lives, 6 officers, 3 NCOs 4 ratings are wounded in the incident. The ship was rendered to a total loss.

Tepe (Gearing) class FRAM destroyers

In service 1971 - 1998

Most numerous class of destroyers in the Turkish navy.

Adatepe (II) (ex-Forrest Royal)

Kocatepe (II & III) (ex-Harwood, ex-Norris)

Tınaztepe (II) (ex-Keppler)

Fevzi Çakmak (II) (ex-Charles H.Roan)

Gayret (ex-Eversole)

Yücetepe (ex-Orleck)

Savaştepe (ex-Meredith)

Kılıç Ali Paşa (II) (ex-Robert H.Mc Card)

Piyale Paşa (II) (ex-Fiske)

Alçıtepe (ex-Robert A. Owens)

Anıttepe (ex-Carpenter)

Notes:

1) Fevzi Çakmak became the only Turkish warship that engaged with an enemy after 1923, when she sunk a Greek FAC with gunfire during the Cyprus war.

2) Kocatepe, along with Fevzi Çakmak, was accidentally bombed by Turkish aircraft during the Cyprus operation and was sunk with 54 of the crew (3 officers, 14 NCOs, 37 ratings). Fevzi Çakmak managed to escape, although heavily damaged. This incident caused deep grief both in public and in military circles, and paved way for major reforms in the navy - air cooperation training of the Turkish armed forces. USS Norris, which was given as a spares source for her sisters, was refitted and activated as Kocatepe (III) after the loss of her forebear.

3) Gayret became a museum ship in Gölcük after deactivation. Yücetepe is given to Orange County, Texas to become a museum ship too.

4) Tınaztepe was stricken after being seriously damaged in a collision with the tanker Aygaz-3. The accident cost the lives of 3 NCOs and 1 rating.

MEKO class frigates 

In service 1987 onwards

They form the main surface striking force of Turkish navy. All save 3 are built in Gölcük Navy Yard. 3 are built in Blohm und Voss, Hamburg.

Yavuz

Turgutreis

Fatih

Yıldırım

Barbaros

Oruç Reis

Salih Reis

Kemal Reis

Tepe (Knox) class frigates

In service since 1993. Bought to bolster Turkish ASW capability.

Muavenet (ex-Capodanno)

Adatepe (ex-Fanning)

Kocatepe (ex-Reasoner)

Zafer (ex-Thomas C.Hart)

Trakya (ex-McCandless)

Karadeniz (ex-Donald B.Beary)

Ege (ex-Ainsworth)

Akdeniz (ex-Bowen)

Gabya (Oliver Hazard Perry) class frigates

In service from 1998 onwards. Bought to bolster surface AA defence

Gaziantep (ex-Clifton Sprague)

Giresun (ex-Antrim)

Gemlik (ex-Flatley)

Gelibolu (ex-Reid)

Gökçeada (ex-M. Tisdale)

Gediz (ex-John Moore)

Berk class escort destroyer

Built in 1967, they were the first modern surface warships built by Gölcük Naval Yard. They were modelled from a US navy class (I don't know which one. They are 1950 tons and carry 2x3 inch guns, 2x triple Mk.32 TT, 2x Mk 11 hedgehog and 10 depth charges)

Berk

Peyk

Berk was sunk as a target during Denizkurdu 2000 maneuvers, 09.08.2000. Peyk is still in service.

Gelibolu (Köln) class escort destroyers

In service 1983 - 1995

Gelibolu (ex-Karlsruhe)

Gemlik (II) (ex-Emden)

Gemlik (III) (ex-Braunschweig)

Submarines

Submarine service is the elite of the Turkish navy.

Early republican submarines: 1926 - 1947

Inönü (UB III) class

In service 1928 - 48

Birinci Inönü

Ikinci Inönü

Built in Holland by the famous feijenoord company, a clandestine branch of Krupp established to continue submarine development officially banned in Germany by the Versailles treaty. They were the first warships of the republican Turkish navy.

Sakarya (600) class

In service 1931 - 49

Sakarya

Dumlupınar

They are export versions of the famous "600" class medium submarines designed by Italian architect Bernardis of Monfalcone Yard.

Germania boats (Type XI)

The submariners' "ace of aces", Kapitanleutnant Lothar von Arnault de la Periere was working as the instructor of the newborn Turkish submarine fleet in the 1930's and indeed, he can be considered as the father of the Turkish submarine arm. When civil war started in Spain, in 1936, Germaniawerft was building a submarine under a paravane company in Cadiz for the Spanish navy. Due to the outbreak of the war, the boat was put to sale before commissioning. De la Periere intervened on his own initiative and persuaded Turkish navy to buy the boat. This boat was very similar to the design which became the type XI of Kriegsmarine. Comissioned in December 1936 into the Turkish navy with the name "Gür", the boat proved so successful that a slightly larger (80 meters long to 72 meters of Gür) version, four boats of the “Ay” class was ordered. Of the four, two were to be built in the Gölcük Navy Yard with German material and personnel aid; the other two were to be built in Krupp's yard in Kiel. The boats were:

Saldıray

Atılay

Yıldıray

Batıray

A very interesting note: the ships' names were coined by Atatürk himself and they were so liked by the general public that they became names for male children! Today you may see many Turkish guys named after those submarines Big Smile [:D]

Of the three ships, Saldıray, built by Krupp, and Atılay, built by Gölcük navy yard, were completed and commisioned in 1939-40. Yıldıray was not completed until 1946 because of material shortages and Batıray, then building in Germany, was requisioned by Kriegsmarine in 1940. Named UA, she became a very successful boat, survived until 1945 and was scuttled in Kiel. Atılay was lost in patrol, after striking a mine in Dardanelles in 14.07.1942. Gür was stricken in 1949, Saldıray and Yıldıray in 1958.

British naval aid boats ("S" class)

Oruç Reis

Murat Reis

Burak Reis

Uluç Ali Reis (never comissioned)

As with the destroyers mentioned above, they were included in the naval aid package of 1939 pact. Of the four, first two were given in 1942. The latter two are commisioned into the Royal Navy. Burak Reis survived and joined Turkish navy in 1946 while Uluç Ali Reis was sunk by a U-boat off West African coast in 1943.

NATO aid US submarines 1948 - 1998

As with the US Destroyers from the Marshall Plan, Fleet boats and Guppy conversions constituted the Turkish submarine arm until late 1990s.

Fleet boats (with Snorkel upgrade)

Entered service 1948-58; last one decommissioned in 1983.

Birinci İnönü (II) (ex-Brill)

Ikinci Inönü (II) (ex-Blueback)

Sakarya (II) (ex-Boarfish)

Gür (II) (ex-Chub)

Çanakkale (ex-Bumper)

Dumlupınar (II) (ex-Blower)

Preveze (ex-Guitarro)

Cerbe (ex-Hammerhead)

Turgut Reis (ex-Bergall)

Piri Reis (ex-Mapiro)

Hızır Reis (ex-Mero)

Notice: Dumlupınar was lost with 81 of the crew when she collided with the Swedish cargo ship Naboland, in the Dardanelles, upon returning from a NATO exercise in 04.05.1953. This was the worst disaster of the Turkish Republican Navy.

Guppy Boats

Entered service 1971-72; last one decommissioned in 2003

Dumlupınar (III) (ex-Caiman) GUPPY I-A

GUPPY II-A boats

Burak Reis (II) (ex-Sea Fox)

Murat Reis (II) (ex-Razorback)

Oruç Reis (II) (ex-Pomfret)

Uluç Ali Reis (ex-Thornback)

Cerbe (II) (ex-Trutta)

Preveze (II) (ex-Entemedor)

Birinci Inönü (III) (ex-Threadfin)

Uluç Ali Reis is now a museum ship in Istanbul.

GUPPY III boats

Çanakkale (II) (ex-Cobbler)

Ikinci Inönü (III) (ex-Corporal)

Hızır Reis (Tang) class

Comissioned 1983; still in service

Hızır Reis (ex-Gudgeon)

Piri Reis (ex-Tang)

Ay (Type 209) class

Built in cooperation with Howaldtswerke, Kiel; they are the pride of Turkish Navy. They are currently undergoing modernization. All save the first three are built by Gölcük Navy Yard. Comissioned between 1976-89

Atılay

Saldıray

Yıldıray

Batıray

Doğanay

Dolunay

Preveze Class

four units comissioned between 1994-99. A fifth (Gür) is under construction.

Preveze

Sakarya

18 Mart

Anafartalar

They are the current Opus Magnum of native Turkish marine engineering. They carry Harpoon SSM's. All built in Gölcük Navy Yard.

Fast Attack Craft

Turkey has a very long coastline to defend and since the invention of locomotive torpedo, enthusiastically embraced torpedo craft as a perfect solution to its defence problems. Republican navy continues this trend too.

Doğan Class

Italian built 32 ton craft. In service 1931-48. 2x stern torpedo racks, 1 x 3 inch QF, 34 kts

Doğan, Martı, Denizkuşu

Bora class 65 ton craft

Built in Turkey to British design 1942-46 and stayed in service until 1951. Wooden hulled, powered by aircraft engines. 2 x 450 mm torpedo racks.

Yıldırım, Şimşek, Bora, Kasırga, Tayfun

Doğan (Nasty) class

Ex-Norwegian Hugin (Doğan) and Mumin (Martı). In service 1964-73. They had poor performance because of their motors built to operate in cold waters broke down in warm Aegean Sea.

Lürssen designed FACs of Turkish navy

Since 1960's, Lürssen Vegesack is the main supplier of FACs for the Turkish navy with very good results.

Jaguar class torpedo armed FAC

In service 1976-88

Fırtına (ex-Pelikan), Tufan (ex-Storch), Kılıç (ex-Löwe), Mızrak (ex-Hahner), Yıldız (ex-Tiger), Karayel (ex-Pinguin)

All built in Germany; ex-FDR craft.

Jaguar class Penguin SSM armed FAC

9 comissioned 1967-70; all save one in service. All built in Germany for Turkish navy.

Denizkuşu, Atmaca, Şahin, Meltem, Pelikan, Albatros, Şimşek, Kasırga

Doğan (Type 148) class

8 were comissioned 1977 - 88. All in active service. All, save the first are built by Gölcük Navy Yard.

Doğan, Martı, Tayfun, Volkan, Rüzgar, Poyraz, Gurbet, Fırtına

Yıldız class

Designed to Turkish specifications and built in Taşkızak (old Navy) Yard. Both comissioned in 1997. They carry Harpoon SSM, 1x 76 mm, 1x 35 mm automatic gun. 38 kts.

Yıldız, Karayel

Kılıç class

Currently, the only Turkish ships of stealth capability. Designed for Turkish navy and all save the first are built in Taşkızak Navy Yard. Comissioned 1998-2000. Carry Harpoon SSM, 1x 76 mm automalera and 1x 40 mm autobreda cannon.

Kılıç, Kalkan, Mızrak

Gunboats and Patrol Boats

Bafra (Bangor) class patrol boats

Famous Bangor class minesweepers of WW 2 refitted as coastal escorts. In service 1958 - 72

Bafra (ex-Nipigon)

Beykoz (ex-Blairmore)

Beylerbeyi (ex-Mahone)

Biga (ex-Medicine Hut)

Bodrum (ex-Fort William)

Bornova (ex-Westmount)

Bozcaada (ex-South Current)

Büyükdere (ex-Sarnia)

Bandırma (ex-Kenora)

Bartın (ex-Kentville)

Hisar (PC-1638) class patrol boats

Built for Turkey in USA. 6 comissioned in 1965-66. All save 1 still in service.

Sultanhisar, Demirhisar, Yarhisar, Akhisar, Sivrihisar, Koçhisar

Bora (Asheville) class patrol gunboats

2 comissioned to Turkish navy in 1973.

Yıldırım (ex-Defiance) and Bora (ex-Surprise)

Yıldırım was destroyed by accidental fire at İzmir in 1986. Bora Still in service

Apart from those major ships, there are (and were) many small craft used for coast guard duties. For me the most notable are the four US 95' WPGs, numbered LS-9, 10, 11 and 12 in Turkish service. They are comissioned in 1953 and served for 46 years!

Mine Warfare Ships

Mines are a vital part of Turkish naval strategy since the reign of Sultan Abdulhamid II

Minelayers

Atak built in 1939 by the famous Turkish naval architect Ata Nutku. Transformed to despatch ship. Currently training ship.

Thornycroft designed minelayers

2 are given as part of British Naval aid to Turkey in 1941. Each capable of carrying 40 mines. Decommissioned in 1964.

Sivrihisar, Turgut Reis

"M" (Modified LSM-1) class

In service 1952 - 1993

Mordoğan (ex-LSM 484)

Meriç (ex-LSM 490)

Marmaris (ex-LSM 481)

Mersin (ex-LSM 492)

Mürefte (ex-LSM 493)

Nusret built in Denmark for Turkish navy. Comissioned in 1964. Still in service

Minesweepers

British motorboats

Given as British naval aid.

Çanak & Kavak. Comissioned 1939, Stricken in 1951. Wooden hulled, gasoline engined.

Bafra, Bandırma, Bartın, Bodrum: comissioned 1946, Stricken 1956.

"A" (Bathurst) class

Australian built. In service 1946-74

Antalya (ex-Geraldton)

Alanya (ex-Broome)

Amasra (ex-Pirie)

Ayancık (ex-Launceston)

Ayvalık (ex-Gawler)

"E" and "Ç" (Auk) class

In service 1947-85. US built but transferred from Royal Navy

Edincik (ex-Grecian)

Erdemli (ex-Catharine)

Eregli (ex-Picque)

Edremit (ex-Chance)

Çeşme (ex-Elfreda)

Çarşamba (ex-Tattoo)

Çardak (ex-Tourmaline)

Çandarlı (ex-Frolic)

"K" (YMS) class

US built ships. In service 1948-66

Kozlu, Kuşadası, Karamürsel, Kaş, Kilimli, Kerempe, Kemer, Kirte

"T" (Gaspe) class

Canadian built ships. Four comissioned in 1958. All save one in service

Trabzon (ex-Gaspe)

Terme (ex-Trinity)

Tirebolu (ex-Comax)

Tekirdağ (ex-Ungva)

"S" (Adjutant) class

US built ships. 12 comissioned 1958-70. 10 still in service

Samsun, Sinop, Sürmene, Seddülbahir, Silifke, Saros, Sığacık, Sapanca, Sarıyer, Seymen, Selçuk, Seyhan

"F" (Cove) class

US built ships. 4 comissioned in 1968. All in service.

Foça, Fethiye, Fatsa, Finike

French built minesweepers

"F" (Vegesack) class

Built for FGN, 6 comissioned to Turkish navy 1976-80. All are in service

Karamürsel (ex-Worms)

Kerempe (ex-Detmold)

Kilimli (ex-Siegen)

Kozlu (ex-Hameln)

Kuşadası (ex-Vegesack)

Kemer (ex-Passau)

Engin (Circe) class

5 transferred from the French Navy in 1999

Edincik (ex-Calliope)

Edremit (ex-Circe)

Enez (ex-Ceres)

Erdek (ex-Cybele)

Erdemli (ex-Clio)

Landing Craft

Turkish navy boasts a highly respected amphibious warfare capability.

Ç-101 class (British) LCT

600 ton standard craft designed in WW 2. 5 are transferred from Britain in 1967. 145 more are built in Taşkızak and Gölcük Navy yards between 1971 - 91.From a total of 150, 20 are currently mothballed.

Ç-201 class (US) LCU

205 ton WW 2 standard design. 4 transferred from USA in 1967, 12 more are built in Gölcük Navy Yard 1965-66. All are currently mothballed.

Ç-301 class (US) LCM

113 ton WW 2 design. 31 units are built 1965-88 in the Turkish Navy Yards. 12 are currently mothballed.

Bayraktar class LST

WW 2 built LSTs. 2 transferred from FGN in 1972. In service.

Bayraktar (ex-Saline County, ex-Bottrop)

Sancaktar (ex-Rice County, ex-Bochum)

Ertuğrul (Terrebonne Parish) class LST

Transferred in 1973, Still in Service

Ertuğrul (ex-Windham County)

Serdar (ex-Westchester County)

Turkish designed LSTs

Commissioned 1983-1994. All save Çakabey are in service.

Çakabey, Sarucabey, Karamürselbey, Osmangazi

Fleet Auxiliaries

Salvage Ships

Kurtaran (ex-Yurak), Bluebird class US fleet tug, fitted as submarine rescue ship in TN. comm. 1950, decomm. 2000.

Akın (ex-Greenlet), Chanticleer class US submarine rescue ship. comm. 1970, still in service.

Işın (ex-Safeguard), Diver class US salvage ship. comm. 1979. Still in service

Tugs and fire-fighters

US built diesel Army Tugs did and are doing sterling service in Turkish Navy. Kudret and Kuvvet are ordinary tugs, while Söndüren is fitted as a fire-fighter. They are in commission since 1954. Cherokee class fleet tug Gazal (ex-Sioux, comissioned in 1973) with the newer French built Değirmendere (ex-Centaure, commisioned in 1999) and Russian built Akbaş (ex-Yawa, commisioned in 1997) provide off-shore towing capability.

Now, a small list of injection molded kits that can be built as Turkish navy ships.

For Destroyers and Frigates:

C.C Lee 1/300 and/or Minihobby 1/200 Russian Gordy class destroyers may provide a basis for Folgore - Turbine class ships conversion.

Kopro (ex-Frog) 1/500 HMS Ivanhoe can easily pass for one of the British aid destroyers

Upcoming 1/350 Trumpeter square bridge Fletcher can be modified to 1960s form as "I" class. Similarly, if you would like to have scale consistency with the Lee kit, Revell's old fletcher is fit as well (of course requires serious detailing)

Modelcraft 1/300 Perry class frigate can be built as one of the Turkish Perrys I assume (if Turkish ones are of the long hulled stock)

Submarines

Nichimo 1/200 Type XI B boat can be built as one of the Germania boats by modifying the tower if you accept and disregard the slight difference of length and minor details.

Revell's all time classic Lionfish can be built as any of the Turkish boats with suitable snorkel and Guppy conversion sets from the Ironbottom sound productions.

Upcoming Revell's 1/72 monster Fleet boat also can be converted to a Snort boat (or even to a Guppy if you have the stomach) in Turkish service

Small Craft

Revell's USS Defiance can be built with Turkish flags and markings (one of my friends did) 

Equally, Revell's 1/144 Jaguar class can be built as Turkish if you replace harpoon lancers of the German kit with penguins.

Lindberg's hard to find 1/84 Coast Guard patrol boat can become one of those venerable LS harbour patrollers of Turkish navy.

Amphibious ships

Lindberg's LST and LCU, Airfix biritish LCT are well fit for Turkish navy markings.

Auxiliaries

Lindberg's venerable Tug can be one her 3 Turkish sisters. Heller's 1/200 Le Suroit also can be built as Değirmendere if I'm not confusing the classes.

Happy modelling to all!

Don't surrender the ship !
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Posted by jwintjes on Monday, May 15, 2006 6:03 PM
Kapudan,

really a handy list - thanks for taking the time to compile it. At first I was surprised not to find Weissenburg on it, but by 1926 she was reduced to a harbour ship, wasn't she?

As for the kits, there are some possibilities in 1/700, too - including resin kits like the Goeben/Yavuz, of which currently three different kits are on offer, if I remember correctly. Apparently Combrig will launch a Brandenburg kit later this year, something I look forward to with not a little bit anticipation - somehow I take a particular interest in the Brandenburgs...

Jorit

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Posted by MBT70 on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 4:23 PM

Kapudan,

 

Amazing list ... a lot of work and research there and our thanks to you.

Are any of the Gearings left anywhere in Turkey, even as hulks?  Also, I think the remaining Asheville class gunboat would make a treasured musuem ship here in Tacoma where it was built. 

Very impressive roster ... you should write another book.

I think we're quite lucky to have you with us on this forum.

Life is tough. Then you die.
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Posted by kapudan_emir_effendi on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 5:48 PM

Dear Friends,

If you found this little roster useful and interesting, it's the greatest pleasure for me. I learn quite a lot from every member of the forum and I always found nothing but the warmest amicality and hospitality here. I always feel a need to produce something that can be useful for our community. Thank you again for the kindest remarks.

Jorit yes, Weissenburg (a.k.a Turgut Reis Smile [:)]) was rendered to a hulk by 1924. Her machines were totally worn out and she was unable to move. Her fore and aft turrets are removed in the same year and are installed as shore defence guns to Dardanelles. Therefter the ship served as an accomodation hulk for cadets in Gölcük naval base and was sold for scrap in 1934. Like you, I have a fondness for the brandenburg class; stubby but with quite pleasant lines, they are handsome ships. But I really hate 1/700 scale and resin (both for price and for the difficulty in working with it). I saw a paper model of brandenburg class at moduni.de, from a german card model company, in 1/250. This is a good scale for such (relatively) small size ships. And yes, there still is the question of Yavuz. Despite all my awareness about the twisted production policy of most injection molded producers, big and small, I still keep my belief to reason and rationality; and I hope, in a not too far future, I'll see an injection molded model of that ship who changed history in 1/350 scale. Normally, my favourite scale for pre-dreadnought battleships is 1/400 to 1/300 range and for dreadnoughts is 1/600 (I think it's the best compromise between level of detail and size). But Yavuz's model deserves to be big, like when she existed, both physically and spiritually.

MTB, I don't know how to thank to your remarks Shy [8)]. Yes we have a Gearing here in Turkey as a museum ship. She is Gayret (ex-USS Eversole) and now resides in Gölcük Naval Base. We also have a Guppy II-A (ex-Thornback) When I participated to the see-inside tour, I was nearly overwhelmed by claustrophobia. Since then I have a special respect for all submariners. As for Asheville class Bora (ex-Surprise), sorry, she still works for the defence of our coasts Smile [:)] But she's nearly 40 years old now and I presume she shall go to an earned retirement in a near future. You, as residents of Tacoma, can contact with the TN for her return. Orange County TX, did this and had USS Orleck (ex-Yücetepe) returned to be a museum ship.

Soon I hope to compile a list of some important Ottoman sailing ships and possible modeling projects of them.

 

Don't surrender the ship !
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Posted by MBT70 on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 2:39 PM

Kapudan,

I quite agree about a 1/350 scale Yavuz, and I believe whoever makes a kit should present it in its TN configuration.  At a minimum, a kit with with the option to be Moltke/Goeben/Yavuz would be much appreciated.  Perhaps the 1/250 card model can be converted or, as Jeff Herne does, used as a template for a wood, plastic, brass, resin or mulit-media model.

 

And thanks again.

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Posted by jwintjes on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 4:57 PM
 MBT70 wrote:
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I quite agree about a 1/350 scale Yavuz, and I believe whoever makes a kit should present it in its TN configuration.  At a minimum, a kit with with the option to be Moltke/Goeben/Yavuz would be much appreciated.  Perhaps the 1/250 card model can be converted or, as Jeff Herne does, used as a template for a wood, plastic, brass, resin or mulit-media model.


Indeed a large-scale Yavuz would be really nice to have - I have toyed around in the past with the idea of getting one in 1/700 (nothing eventually came out of it mainly because the available kits are on the expensive side of things), but also looked at that 1/250 card kit.

I guess it would be a good basis for a 1/350 hull in wood/styrene; the ICM König kit might yield useful smaller parts (boats, searchlights etc.). One could rework one of the turrets to serve as a master for those of the Yavuz.

Jorit
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Posted by jwintjes on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 5:03 PM
Kapudan,

a question on the list you made up - do you know a source for plans of the Nusrat? I always thought it might be an interesting project for, say, 1/100 or even 1/72 as she wasn't too large; unfortunately I haven't come across acceptable plans yet. There is a small drawing in OSN, but something on a larger scale would be better.

Was there ever anything published on her on the occasion of the restoration/replica (as far as I understand there isn't too much of the original in it, or is it?) project?.

Jorit

  • Member since
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  • From: istanbul/Turkey
Posted by kapudan_emir_effendi on Friday, May 19, 2006 6:33 AM

Hello Jorit,

I have 1/100 scale modeler's plans for Nusrat. If you can send me your posting adress, I can send you a copy of it after I finish my overwhelming school tasks (this means end of june)

Regards

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