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Good kit for RC conversion, a nice BIG kit needed.

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  • From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Good kit for RC conversion, a nice BIG kit needed.
Posted by zokissima on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:35 AM

Hi

Ok, well I'm not much of a ship modeller, but I guess there's a time when we all want to do something different. This summer I want to complete a project that's been in my mind for a while. I want to make an RC boat. I've got an rc kit from an old learning airplane I bought about two years ago. The plane crashed one too many times, but the guts still operate fine. Anywhoo, I'll work out the mechanics of the conversion on my own, as I've allready done some research on that. What I need from you gentlemen is suggestions on a kit to convert. Preferably, the bigger the better. It must be injection moulded, as I'm not willing to spend a ludicrous amout of money on the kit itself, and want it to be readily available through either a LHS or eBay. In any case, something big, around 3 feet maybe, and a nice wide hull to allow me as much working space as possible. Something that hopefully comes within as few mouldings as possible, as I imagine having a multi-part hull may not be such a stable idea....

 

Also, any kind of references to this kind of project in general that you can point me to would be greatly welcomed.

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Posted by kapudan_emir_effendi on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:39 AM
I suggest you go for Revell 1/72 scale Flower class corvette. Very seemanly looking, historically significant warship and looks impressive when finished. 60$ is the first hand price tag and I think it's a good deal for what you get.
Don't surrender the ship !
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Posted by zokissima on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:51 AM
How large is this kit?
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Posted by ddp59 on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 6:46 PM
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Posted by rcboater on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 8:25 PM
I think the best plastic model for RC conversion is the 1/72 FLower class Corvette.    The model is abotu 33 inches long, with a beam of about 6 inches, with plenty of displacement.  I used a 6 volt, 4.5 amp/hr gel cell for the battery, and a 6 volt Dumas Pittman motor on direct drive.  That combo gave a nice running model that could sail forever, with a max speed slightly over scale speed. An advantage of using 6 volts for the power system is that you can also power the radio system from the same battery.

A lot of people have used the Lindberg Fletcher Class DD ("Blue Devil Destroyer") as a first RC model.  Personally, I don't think this is as good a subject.  The model is about the same length, but with a much shallower hull with only a 3 inch beam.  The Fletcher class will be much more weight sensitive, and less stable and less seaworthy as a result.

A number of folks have converted the Flower to RC over the years-- a web search should turn up a number of hits.  I recommend a couple of changes to the model if you go the RC route-- I'd replace some of the fragile parts with brass rod, such as the railings and J davits. 

The Flower class is very seaworthy-- you'll be able to run the model in all sorts of conditions.  Make sure that you secure the battery so that it can't shift around in a seaway. 

Keep in mind that it is a violation of FCC regulations (in the USA) to use radios on model aircraft frequencies in surface models (cars or boats) and vice versa.  You won't be allowed to run your model at a club or other organized activity if you're using an "aircraft only" frequency radio. 

The great thing about RC scale boating is that a good model can last for years and years-- they aren't subject to the attrition that flying models seem to go through....

There are a number of plastic models that can be converted to RC.   Some others that can be done:

Lindberg Diesel Tug-- 13 inches long
Revell 1/96 USS Kearsarge or CSS Alabama  30"
Lindberg or Revell North Atlantic Trawler-- 18"
Revell NYC Fireboat 18"
Revell 1/72 Type VII U-boat-- 33 "
Tamiya 1/72 PT-15
Lindberg 1/32 PT-109

Hope this helps....

-Bill
Current Project: RC conversion of Trumpeter 1/35 scale LCM(3),  21"  long.(About 95% complete.)


Webmaster, Marine Modelers Club of New England

www.marinemodelers.org

 

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  • From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posted by zokissima on Thursday, May 18, 2006 7:35 AM

Thanks very much for the replies. I'm starting to lean towards the Corvette. Did some quick searching, and some good tips have been found on the net. I like the wider hull, as I have absolutely no idea about how to make the ship stable, so more working room will always be a plus.

 

As for regulations and that sort of thing, its kind of a non-issue. I won't be going to any clubs or anything like that. Its just something that I've wanted to build for myself for a long while.

 

Now only if I could find one at a reasonable price.

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Posted by scottrc on Thursday, May 18, 2006 8:04 AM
I have RC'd both the Lindberg Destroyer and the PT 109.  The Destroyer is a bugger to trim out since it has such a long, skinny hull and is top heavy.  The PT 109 is much like the Flower Class Corvett in that it has good draft, is wide, and balances out good with a standard 7.2v motor, battery, and standard RC servos.

You mentioned that you want to use the RC system out of your plane?  If it is 72 mz, you cannot use it in a boat.  You can use the servos and battery, but the transmitter and receiver are regulated by the FCC to be used in aircraft only.   A surface band radio isn't too expensive, about $50.

Scott

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Posted by zokissima on Thursday, May 18, 2006 8:41 AM

Found an LHS that carries the corvette, for a reasonable price I think.

Also saw something else. Anyone know anything about the Italeri 1/35 ELCO 80' Torpedo Boat PT-596, plastic model kit?

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Posted by CG Bob on Thursday, May 18, 2006 6:54 PM
The Italeri PT 596 hasn't been released yet, but it'll be 27" long.  You could power it with a pair of 540 size motors, some Octura X427 or X430 props, and a 2 channel radio.  You should look at some of the conversions that Pat Matthews has done with a Tamiya battleship and an aircraft carrier from the toy department of Target. 
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