Heller's spanish galleon

starduster wrote:

Say SKorecko, you did a great job on that galleon, and a great job on that dio ...

Thank You very much, Karl.
I'll post more images of the model & diorama, when I finish it.

Stefan.

   Say SKorecko, you did a great job on that galleon, and a great job on that dio, boy, box art sure can make castles out of cottages, still there's some great art just on some model boxes, thanks for the photos. Karl

Hello,

I bought the 1/200 Spanish galleon  by Heller about 3 years ago. Now it is nearly finished.
The model is molded nicely, but the detail is sparse.

Here are links to some photos of my model.

Model in diorama:

http://hornad.fei.tuke.sk/~korecko/photoHeap/galeona/IMG_0743.JPG
http://hornad.fei.tuke.sk/~korecko/photoHeap/galeona/IMG_0746.JPG
http://hornad.fei.tuke.sk/~korecko/photoHeap/galeona/IMG_0751.JPG
http://hornad.fei.tuke.sk/~korecko/photoHeap/galeona/IMG_0768.JPG

The diorama shows loading of oars (I don’t like the look of this model with oars installed).

Model on stand:

http://hornad.fei.tuke.sk/~korecko/photoHeap/galeona/IMG_0771.JPG
http://hornad.fei.tuke.sk/~korecko/photoHeap/galeona/IMG_0778.JPG

 

I rigged it according to the rigging diagrams of Golden Hind and Mayflower.
That’s because the rigging diagrams provided by Heller are, IMHO, nonsense.

Btw., this is my first effort to build rigged sailing ship.

Regards,
Stefan Korecko

Thank you.

Also, please note, that in Wolfram Zu Mondfeld's book, you can find a picture of the stern of this vessel, as "Corona Aurea", Spanish galeass, 1585.

The hull of this model was indeed the same hull Heller used for their Corona and Stella models.

Michel

 

<BLOCKQUOTE><table class="quoteOuterTable"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/FSM/CS/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>starduster wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4">   Thank's Big Jake, I have a  1:200 scale galleon lined up allready but was wondering if anyone on this board had built this Heller model, how the model rates as far as instructions and any problems that were encountered along the way, thanks again. Karl </td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hello: The Spanish Gallion from Heller is not very detailed and lacks a lot I think. I haven't completed the build since it happend I destroyed some oars by chance. I haven't succeded in imitating new oars.

However, as it appears from the posted image in the thread some individuals have successfully completed a nice little model out of the kit.

Regards,
Kater Felix

   That's quite an impressive painting, I made drawings of ships like this when I was in grade school, these ships always have fascinated me, I've added a link to see the model ships I mentioned above, thanks again. Karl

  http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/brtfan001/album?.dir=/933dre2

Please let me add some words.

When I was a little boy, I was very impressed by the large box and the boxart of the Heller Galion model.  My cousin was once offered one, and I remember I was very sad not to get it.  So, once I could do it, I bought one.  Of course, then, there was some deception, because the small hull parts were lost in the large box.  But, let me show you the old boxart.

Michel

 

  Thanks for the photo michel.vrtg, I think it looks fine, I'd most likely make some sails for it though using the wet paper method mentioned in the posts, would anyone here have a link to the Ertl ships or the Pyro ships ? the Ertl ships are both 1/45 scale, 13- 1/4 " long and 9- 1/2"  high, injection molded plastic moulded sails great detail,

   The Pyro ships have no scale stated but the Dutch warship Gouda looks about 14" long and maybe 7- 1/2 " high with good detail, the British man o war the Sovereign of the seas is about 14" long maybe 7" high has plenty of carved detail along the aft end as well on the sides, injection molded with moulded sails and has very good detail, I've searched the internet for any info on these ship models but nothing on any of them thanks again. Karl

Here is a picture of the Heller Galion I built 15 or 20 years ago.  The model was  painted with Humbrol acrylics.

Please note, this is just to show you the model, this is not a model I am proud of...especially about the rigging.

Michel

 

 

First things first - Starduster, welcome to the Forum!  I think you'll enjoy it.  The people here are a little odd, but generally harmless.

In its early days Heller was notorious for recycling ship model parts, using one hull, with different details and ornamentation, to represent ships from different countries and different centuries.  I haven't seen that "Spanish galleon" kit for many years, but as I recall the hull form was extremely dubious.  (Caveat:  the available contemporary sources are such that nobody can say for certain what constitutes a truly accurate or inaccurate shape for a Spanish galleon's hull). 

Though I've never bought the Imai kit, on the basis of pictures I cerainly agree with Millard that it's a fine one.  I'll in fact go a little further than that:  of all the kits (plastic, wood, and otherwise) that I've seen and are labeled "Spanish galleons," that one is the only one that can legitimately claim status as a scale model.  Revell has, at various times, sold three kits with the "Spanish galleon" label.  The 2-foot-plus one, originally issued in 1970, was an historical travesty that, according to Revell's own literature (which I remember reading in the hobby shop where I worked at the time) was designed for "young married couples and interior decorators."  According to Dr. Thomas Graham's history of Revell, it was "researched...at the reference library of MGM movie studio."  'Nuff said.  A couple of years later Revell issued a smaller version of it that was intended to be mounted on an included "wall plaque" in the form of an allegedly antique map.  The smallest Revell "Spanish galleon" was, in fact, a slightly-modified reissue of the company's Golden Hind.  As a reconstruction of the Golden Hind it was outstanding, but the Golden Hind was no more a Spanish galleon than the U.S.S. Kidd was a Japanese battleship.

If you're in the market for a scale model of a Spanish galleon, the Imai/Lee/Aoshima one really is the only game in town.

EPinniger wrote:

On the subject of Spanish galleons, is the Lee 1/100 kit (which occasionally pops up on eBay) the same as the highly inaccurate Revell one, or is it a completely different mould? If the latter, is it a reasonably accurate representation of a 16th/17th-century galleon?

The Lee kit is the old Imai molds.Its a teriffic kit I've built it several times.Now the molds are getting a little old so the Lee kit has more flash than the Imai kits do. Also if you see it under Ertl its the same kit.I believe Aoshima has the mold now.I've got photo's of my last build on www.modelwarships.com Look for ships by Rod Millard.Its a lot better than the old Revell kit. You will also see it sometimes sold as a pirate ship by Ertl.

Rod

 

On the subject of Spanish galleons, is the Lee 1/100 kit (which occasionally pops up on eBay) the same as the highly inaccurate Revell one, or is it a completely different mould? If the latter, is it a reasonably accurate representation of a 16th/17th-century galleon?

Thanks michel.vrtg, I'll be getting the 1/200 scale one, I appreciate it.  Karl

Karl,

I built the Heller galion 15 or 20 years ago.It is a nice little model.

I remember one negative point : Heller provide the same hull for the Galion and another model (I do not remember if it is the Corona or Stella model).  For this reason, there is a rectangle of plastic to support the oars.  And the junction between the hull and this part is visible.

Also, note, that there are two "galion" models by Heller : the 1/200 scale one and the "mini" 1/450 scale one (as seen on the ebay link ont this page).

Hmmm, I'll try to post a picture of my "finished" model (hoping, that I did not lose some parts).

Michel

 

   Thank's Big Jake, I have a  1:200 scale galleon lined up allready but was wondering if anyone on this board had built this Heller model, how the model rates as far as instructions and any problems that were encountered along the way, thanks again. Karl 

You Usally can find these on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/HELLER-CORONA-SPANISH-GALLEON_W0QQitemZ6062260521QQihZ009QQcategoryZ4248QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/1-450-scale-GALION-HELLER-80063_W0QQitemZ6036842709QQihZ009QQcategoryZ4248QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem