PT Group Build- BPB MASB 37

Al Gunthwaite

Member since
April 2005
From: Yorkshire

PT Group Build- BPB MASB 37

Posted by Al Gunthwaite on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 4:38 PM

Some sort of work has at last started on the PT Group Build:

British Power Boat 63' Motor Anti-Submarine Boat (MASB 37) converting from the Airfix RAF Rescue Launch.

Found out the RAF Rescue Launch from the loft...

Assembled the hull and removed all details from the deck with a razor saw...

Work on creating seascape base (Milliput over foamcard on a piece of MDF)...

Next immediate stages are to put a new skin (plasticard) on the deck; do all necessary filling on the hull and finish modelling the base.

Al

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cthulhu77

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January 2003
From: arizona

Posted by cthulhu77 on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 4:48 PM

We are going to love this one! Looking great!

greg

http://www.ewaldbros.com

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:12 PM

Great start Al. I really like what you are doing with the base!.

Bruce

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Hippy-Ed

Member since
December 2004
From: Stockton,Ca

Posted by Hippy-Ed on Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:11 AM

Good grief Charlie Brown Shock [:O]

You're tryin' to show us up aren't ya??! Mischief [:-,]

The base is coming along nicely. I didn't know you could model water with Milliput Shock [:O]

I read an article in the Nov 2004 issue of FSM where a guy used Mod Podge Gloss Lustre for the water.
So, we having fun yet? Evil [}:)]

If you lose your sense of humor, you've lost everything

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Al Gunthwaite

Member since
April 2005
From: Yorkshire

Posted by Al Gunthwaite on Thursday, July 20, 2006 1:37 AM

The Milliput is a fairly expensive option. I tend to be very fickle with it as for detailed work it seems to deteritorate when exposed to the air - consequently I have lots of half/quater used packs lying around. I've just bought 3 new packs to finish off the base. I reckon that by the time I have finished the base I will have used he equivalent of 6 or 7 complete packs.

It's going to be interesting to see how it works out.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 20, 2006 6:06 AM

Very nice, Al!

Are there aftermarket parts to help for the conversion? What does MASB37 look like?

Michel

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Hippy-Ed

Member since
December 2004
From: Stockton,Ca

Posted by Hippy-Ed on Thursday, July 20, 2006 6:27 AM

Al, it sure will be interesting to see how it turns out. Sure is one way to clear out all those 1/2 empty tubes. It just appears to be alot of work to doit in this manner IMHO. IIRC Greg is doing a water base for his build?

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Al Gunthwaite

Member since
April 2005
From: Yorkshire

Posted by Al Gunthwaite on Thursday, July 20, 2006 1:09 PM

Hippy-Ed wrote:
...It just appears to be alot of work ...

Therapeutic and relaxing is another way of looking at it! Smile [:)]

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Al Gunthwaite

Member since
April 2005
From: Yorkshire

Posted by Al Gunthwaite on Thursday, July 20, 2006 2:12 PM

michel.vrtg wrote:

Very nice, Al!

Are there aftermarket parts to help for the conversion? What does MASB37 look like?

Michel

It looks similar to this:

I'm likely to be using a few aftermarket bits & bobs from the Great Little Ships, Coastal Forces Range.

http://www.djparkins.clara.net/gls/glsmast.htm

They indicate that they intend to produce a conversion kit for the RAF Rescue Launch to a MGB/MA-SB - but nothing to date (check out the link to the Corvette/S-Boat diorama on the site - cracking stuff!)

Al

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Hippy-Ed

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December 2004
From: Stockton,Ca

Posted by Hippy-Ed on Thursday, July 20, 2006 11:57 PM

Al Gunthwaite wrote:
Hippy-Ed wrote:
...It just appears to be alot of work ...

Therapeutic and relaxing is another way of looking at it!

Hey!! You stole my line!! Laugh [(-D]

It's also the truth! I kept telling my G.F. (rest her soul) it was my way of relaxing after a hard day. break out the model & the glue... ahhh.... I need to get back to my build Whistling [:-^]

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EPinniger

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January 2006

Posted by EPinniger on Friday, July 21, 2006 4:07 AM

Looks like an very interesting project - I'm definitely looking forward to seeing more photos of this.

I have a couple of old RAF Rescue Launch hulls in the loft, so might try converting one of them myself in the future if I can find some plans for the MASB!
Hopefully I'll be starting work on my Revell S-100 for the PT boat GB fairly soon.

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PTConsultingNHR

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December 2005

Posted by PTConsultingNHR on Friday, July 21, 2006 2:12 PM

Very nice work Al.

Sorry for the delay in getting in touch with you people, but I've been on holiday and all this week very busy catching up on my real job.

So, what has been going on in my absense?

Garth

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Al Gunthwaite

Member since
April 2005
From: Yorkshire

Posted by Al Gunthwaite on Tuesday, September 5, 2006 12:48 PM

Typical...

Having scratch built the charthouse based on the photos and drawings I have, you then discover more photo's which show the front and rear in detail and it's apparent that first the original drawings were wrong and secondly, some of the reasonable assumptions you made from the information to hand were also wrong.

So it's literally back to the drawing board!

(But it is coming along slowly)

Al

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Hippy-Ed

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December 2004
From: Stockton,Ca

Posted by Hippy-Ed on Tuesday, September 5, 2006 12:56 PM

Hang in there Al, just remember tis is a therapeutic & relaxing hobby Tongue [:P]

And with each setback, you gain knowledge and will do an even better job of it Big Smile [:D]

I know it's that way with my PT-109

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Al Gunthwaite

Member since
April 2005
From: Yorkshire

Posted by Al Gunthwaite on Wednesday, September 6, 2006 6:02 AM

Ed

I've been modelling too long to get wound up about it: it's one of those things that becomes a source of amusement.

However, the more photos I discover of the British Power Boat MA-SB's (and MGB's) based on the 63' hull, it is apparent that each boat was different.

Al

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Hippy-Ed

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December 2004
From: Stockton,Ca

Posted by Hippy-Ed on Wednesday, September 6, 2006 10:02 AM

Al,
hear ya bro. It is amusing when ya discover more info on the type you are doing & are reminded of the different characteristics each one has. Especially during wartime. Look at the '80 Elcos for instance The 109 had the 37mm anti tank weapon lashed down on her deck and the spotlight was missing., she also had been tried out with radar at one time or another.. Some of her class had the "Beehive" on their masts yet, others had a different one if the even had one. So, my suggestion to you is this, find one that amuses you & then run with it bro Tongue [:P]

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cthulhu77

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January 2003
From: arizona

Posted by cthulhu77 on Friday, September 8, 2006 9:26 AM

I'm lucky enough to have a father that served in the Marines in WW2 (and survived, hence me), and the stories he tells are worth gold...quite a lot of them are about the "native engineering" that went into the craft that they used, whether tanks,trucks, or boats. According to him, things were done on the fly often, from camouflaging to adaptations...sometimes just for one mission or two, and scrounging was the order of the day. So, every time I meet up with some yahoo at a modeling club who tells me that my colours are off, I just smile.

Looking forward to seeing some pics!

Greg

http://www.ewaldbros.com

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Hippy-Ed

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December 2004
From: Stockton,Ca

Posted by Hippy-Ed on Saturday, September 9, 2006 12:52 AM

I read somewhere that several people were asked about the colors of the PT109 (or was it 105?) These guys all served on the PTs and no two answers were the same. No one was really sure.

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cthulhu77

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From: arizona

Posted by cthulhu77 on Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:47 AM

Dad said they used whatever they had sitting around, or could be "scrounged" from the supply yard...often mixing up different colours to make enough paint to cover the vehicle. Maybe that pink sub wasn't so far fetched???? LOL.

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Hippy-Ed

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December 2004
From: Stockton,Ca

Posted by Hippy-Ed on Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:21 AM

Operation Petticoat. Man, that's a good movie Tongue [:P]

I finally got to watch it all the way through for once the other day!! It could very well be true Shock [:O]

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Dubau

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March 2006
From: Boyertown, PA, USA

Posted by Dubau on Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:33 AM

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

LOL

Looking good so for, can't wait to see more

Bud

" You've experienced a set back, and without set backs and learning how to fix them you'll never make the leap from kit builder to modeler "

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Hippy-Ed

Member since
December 2004
From: Stockton,Ca

Posted by Hippy-Ed on Sunday, September 10, 2006 10:59 AM

Just a bit Sign - Off Topic!! [#offtopic]

but, the pink sub... what class was it? I'm not sure. Confused [%-)]

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Al Gunthwaite

Member since
April 2005
From: Yorkshire

Posted by Al Gunthwaite on Wednesday, October 4, 2006 3:57 AM

Latest update...

A new wheelhouse has been scratchbuilt; this time more accurate. The windows allow clearer views inside than I anticipated and the method I have chosen for glazing the windows will make detailing the interior difficult - so I intend to fill it up with crew!

Much time has been spent brooding over John Lambert's plans of the .5" Vickers power operated turret and deciding how I was going to build it (questions like, how do you detail inaccessible places within a cylinder?). My solution has been to put only basic detailing on the walls of the cylinder of the turret, to have a base for the turret with the seat, controls and ammo boxes that will be fitted (and painted) before the turret and structure is cemented to the deck. The guns, elevation gear, ammo feeds and sights will be in a separate unit that will fit as a cap on top of the turret.

The next job (once the turret is finished and the interior of the wheelhouse is done) will be to start to detail the deck.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y215/Gunthwaite/MASB37Oct064.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y215/Gunthwaite/MASB37Oct062.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y215/Gunthwaite/MASB37Oct063.jpg

It's become evident that it's unlikely that I'm going to finish by December 1: but I shall keep going!

Al

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EPinniger

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January 2006

Posted by EPinniger on Wednesday, October 4, 2006 5:56 AM

A very interesting-looking boat! Great work so far on the conversion.

It looks more than a bit reminiscent of the post-war Vosper Mk.V (produced in 1/72 by Tamiya as the "Perkasa", a boat exported to Malaysia)

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Hippy-Ed

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December 2004
From: Stockton,Ca

Posted by Hippy-Ed on Wednesday, October 4, 2006 11:43 AM

Lookin' sharo there Al Thumbs Up [tup]

Them ammo cans look good.
on page 193 of "Allied Coastal Forces of WWII" there is a great diagram of the twin 0.5 Vickers showing an overhead & side view.

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Al Gunthwaite

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April 2005
From: Yorkshire

Posted by Al Gunthwaite on Tuesday, October 7, 2008 6:58 AM

Right...

I've been making a little bit of progress. I've been sorting out some crew and I been thinking about the Vickers MG's for the gun tub. More shortly...

Al

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