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"New" ship releases from Revell
Posted by jtilley on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:12 AM

I just took a look at the Revell Germany website, where I found some announcements that may be of interest to ship modelers - especially those who, like me, can remember the jurassic period of the hobby.

It seems that, in conjunction with the fiftieth anniversary of the company's European operations, Revell is going to reissue several "classic" kits from the fifties and sixties.  One is the "Sport Fisherman," a modified version of the Chris Craft cabin cruiser that originally appeared in 1954; the modified version with the fishing gear dates from 1961.   (My source, as always, is Thomas Graham's excellent book, Remembering Revell Model Kits.)  I believe it was also part of the Revell/Monogram "Special Subjects Program" of reissues back in the mid-eighties.

Also on the list is the P&O liner Oriana, from 1961 - though this time it appears to be molded in white, rather than the original P&O beige.  This one will be warmly welcomed by ocean liner enthusiasts, whom the plastic kit companies have virtually ignored recently.

The most interesting reissue, perhaps, is the "Guided Missile Fleet Gift Set."  This one, according to Dr. Graham, originally appeared in 1956, and is one of the rarest of Revell kits.  He estimates its value on the collector's market at $500-600. 

Here's the link to the Revell Germany ad:

http://www.revell.de/en/company/50_years_of_revell/anniversary_kits/index.html?&L=1

This should be a fun exercise in nostalgia for us Olde Phogies.  A couple of curmudgeonly caveats, however, seem to be in order.

The "gift set" originally consisted of three kits:  the Nautilus, Boston, and Norton Sound. 

The Boston was a modification of Revell's earlier (and, by modern standards, incredibly primitive) Baltimore-class heavy cruiser, which originally appeared under the name Los Angeles in 1954.  Presumably the kit in the new box will be just a reissue of the first Boston.

When the original Revell Nautilus originally appeared, in 1953, the plans of the real ship were highly classified.  Revell's designers, wanting to beat the real ship into the water (and the competition from Aurora and Lindberg into the hobby shops), took some rather wild guesses about what she might look like, based (according to Dr. Graham) on some vague drawings in a magazine article.  Unfortunately the result they produced was far wide of the mark.  The hull form and overall proportions of the kit bore little resemblance to the real ship.  Since the public didn't know that, the kit sold well.  In 1955 Revell produced a modified reissue of it with a "Loon" missile and the cylindrical hangar for it on the deck aft of the conning tower.  (That, presumably, was the justification for putting the kit in the original "Guided Missile Fleet" set.)  In fact, though the Navy did experiment with Loons mounted on several submarines, the Nautilus wasn't one of them.  The kit is, in other words, complete and total fiction in just about every respect.

The U.S.S. Norton Sound was a seaplane tender launched during World War II.  After the war, presumably because of the abundance of flat, open deck space aft of her superstructure, she was used as a test bed for several experimental missiles.  The Revell kit appeared originally in 1956, and was reissued once under its original name a year later.  Then things got a little complicated.

In 1958, Revell modified the Norton Sound kit and reissued it as the seaplane tender Pine Island.  I was eight years old at the time, and I vividly remember being fascinated by the wonderful PBM Mariner aircraft - complete with with tiny decals and rivets the size of prize-winning watermelons.  Three cheers to Revell for making the modeling public conscious of the important role played by such auxiliaries in the U.S. Navy.  In its seaplane tender form the kit got reissued several times, as the Pine Island and the Currituck, which was indeed a near-identical sister ship.  (I'm pretty sure it was part of the "Special Subjects Program" too.)

Apparently the molds got modified permanently to change the ship from a guided missile test ship to a seaplane tender.  That's a guess on my part - but it would explain why (a) the Norton Sound kit in its original configuration never appeared again, and (b) the new version of the "Guided Missile Fleet" just announced by Revell Germany includes not the Norton Sound but the Currituck.  The box art appears to be a reproduction of the 1956 original (minus the ABC /CBS TV logos, but still with the reference to the TV series "Navy Log"), but, if the photo on the Revell Germany website is to be believed, the kit in the box is the Currituck - complete with PBM.  What a seaplane tender, with no visible connection to guided missiles, is doing in a box labeled "Guided Missile Fleet" is unexplained.

Anway, of the three kits in the box the Currituck, though obviously not twenty-first-century state-of-the-art, comes closest to meeting any definition of the term "scale model."  (Besides, where else can you find a styrene kit that represents an American seaplane tender?)  Kit collectors and nostalgia buffs undoubtedly will find this kit fascinating.  Those (if any) who actually did pay $500 or $600 for it needn't feel obliged to disembowel themselves; the new version doesn't really duplicate the old one.  But serious scale modelers would be best advised to give it a pass.

Several other kits on Revell Germany's fiftieth anniversary reissue list also are of interest.  I'm particularly attracted to the 105 mm howitzer and the Jupiter C missile.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 4:23 PM
No Calypso? Too bad the film with Bill Murray as a Cousteau type character bombed. I bet we would have seen a Calypo release.  
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Posted by Glamdring on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 5:07 PM
I know I built that fishing boat, and it didn't turn out so good.  If I was to pick up one, that would be it and hopefully do some interior scratchbuilding with it....

Robert 

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Posted by MJH on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 11:39 PM
I wonder if that Oriana is the same kit as CCLee is producing?  If so, pretty ordinary.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:49 AM

I emailed them about their "50th birthday" 1/110 scale USS Constitution, waiting for an answer. (but I have an idea, it must be a "1/150th scale" model, same as the USS United States, I posted some pictures of the box content in another topic)

Please, note, that Prof. Tilley wrote a list of "50th birthday" models, these are reissued Revell models.  You cand "50th birthday" models by Revell, too, in some webshops, but they are not so old models with points to get "50th birthday" gifts. 

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Posted by scottrc on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 7:21 AM
Sombody in marketing at Revell must have taken notice to what pricesand demand those original kits are going for

I still have the old Tradewind model my brother built.  I remember taking it out of his room and going outside and because the nose opened up, filling it up with bugs, mostly ants, then putting the model back in his room, with the occupants still on board.

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Posted by DURR on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 11:09 PM

i remember some of these kits 

they were always  odd scales

does anyone remember the scale of the convair, and the 3 ships set

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Posted by jtilley on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 11:25 PM

Dr. Graham's book lists them as follows:

Convair R3Y-2 Tradewind - 1/168

Nautilus - 1/305 (but how do you determine the scale of a ship model whose designers didn't know the dimensions of the prototype?)

Boston - 1/480 (he lists the original, non-missile-equipped Los Angeles as 1/490; maybe one of those figures is a typo)

Currituck - 1/431 (the Norton Sound is listed as 1/426, and the Pine Island as 1/424; take your pick)

Sport Fisherman - 1/56

Oriana - 1/493

I suspect the people at Revell pay no attention whatever to this Forum (if they know it exists), but, for what little it's worth, here's my personal list (in no particular order) of old Revell ship kits I'd like to see again:

U.S.S. Olympia

Forrest Sherman-class destroyer

Buckley-class destroyer escort

S.S. Brasil (or Argentina) (don't forget the turquoise-colored foil for the swimming pools)

Four-stack destroyer

German WWI light cruiser

Golden Hind

Flying Cloud

Batavia

Great Eastern

Yacht America

Charles W. Morgan

Mayflower (either version - preferably the larger one)

1/96 Cutty Sark (that one should never be out of production)

Viking ship

Riverboat Robert E. Lee (preferably with the original hull - before they deepened it to accommodate the electric motor and batteries)

Maybe some other Forum members have their own lists.  It's probably a useless exercise, but it's harmless.

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Posted by EPinniger on Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:04 PM
I'll probably pick up the "Guided Missile" set and possibly the Chris Craft cruiser when they turn up in the shops here, depending on what price they are.

My "wish list" of Revell re-releases would be more or less the same as jtilley's, with the addition of
the Calypso, the yacht "America" and/or the "Civil War Blockader" version (not sure how good this kit is), and the two USCG ships (icebreaker Eastwind/Burton Island and cutter Taney/Campbell).

I would have added the 1/170ish Gato sub to this list, except that it'll presumably be made obsolete by the new Trumpeter 1/144 kit out this year. Similarly most of their WW2 and Cold War ships in the 1/500-1/700 range now have better, more recent kits available from other manufacturers.

I think the Batavia is still in production here in Europe, it's fairly widely available in shops at least.
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Posted by Carmike on Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:21 PM

That's a great list, folks.

The Brasil / Argentina have been out of production for a long time and it would be nice to see that kit back again - it might be fun to build one stock and try a conversion to thier apperance as the Vollendam / Veendam after 1972.

It would also be nice to see a re-issue of the NYFD fireboat Firefighter, especially given her heroic service on 9/11.  I have one of the recent re-issues from around 1992/3 in mostly white plastic, but it would be nice to see the kit as originally issued with plated propellers, hose nozzles, and fittings.

Let's keep our fingers crossed! 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:34 PM

This is not an advertising, it is just to give you an idea of the price of the models, shown as available in august, 2006

http://www.moduni.de/index.php/actions_details_id/710/language/en

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Posted by scottrc on Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:56 PM
I wouldn't mind having the cut a way 747, however, my attention to detail would turn me into a babbling blob on flesh because I would just have to put seatbelts on every seat, a barf bag and magazine in the seat pocket, and have photo etch trays with little martini glasses on them.

Makes all those cannons on the Heller Victory not so overwhelming afterall..

Scott

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 10, 2006 6:15 AM

If you want one of the reissued Revell models, buy it when you find one , they are selling fast, and they are limited editions.

Michel

 

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Posted by EPinniger on Thursday, August 10, 2006 11:24 AM
Do any hobby shops in the UK have these kits yet? At least one eBay UK seller already has these kits in stock, but I'd rather buy from a "LHS" if possible.

I'm definitely interested in the Chris Craft boat and the Tradewind, and possibly the Guided Missile set (not sure about the latter, the Currituck is the only ship of the 3 I'm really interested in)
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 5:40 AM

Here is a link to a picture of the "50th brithday" reissued Constitution model by Revell.

Length : 558mm?

http://www.moduni.de/product_info.php/cPath/10000000_10400000_10403001_10403040/products_id/8105600

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Posted by jtilley on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 7:12 AM

On the basis of the box photo (which, of course, may or may not accurately depict the contents) I think it's the old "Quick-Build" version, originally issued in 1969.

That series, you'll recall, was a desperate effort by Revell to revive interest in sailing ship models by presenting some that could be completed in a few evenings, with minimal experience and tools.  They featured one-piece decks and injection-molded "shrouds and ratlines" (as opposed to the plastic-coated thread ones Revell was including in most of its ships at the time).  There were eventually five ships in the series:  the Consitution (in versions with and without sails), Cutty Sark, Thermopylae (a slightly revised Cutty Sark - as was the case with the big 1/96 kits), Mayflower, and yacht America.  The America was the only truly new kit in the series.  The Constitution, Cutty Sark, and Thermopylae were scaled-down versions of larger Revell kits; the Mayflower was a scaled-up version of a smaller one.

The only ones I ever bought was the Mayflower and the America.  The Mayflower was a beautiful kit; the only "simplification" from the smaller version was the omission of the rigging blocks.  The America was also nice - perhaps not quite up to Revell's detail standards of a few years previously (the copper plates on the hull, as I remember, were represented by raised outlines, rather than looking like they overlapped), but a solid basis for a good scale model.  For a while it was being sold with plasticized paper sails and instructions on how to weight the hull so it would actually sail - the only time Revell took that approach, I believe.

I recall taking a brief look at the Constitution when I was working in a hobby shop.  My recollection is that the gun carriages were molded integrally with the spardeck, and I think I remember that the gundeck was represented by a single piece, which extended only an inch or so fore and aft of the big hatch in the waist.  That gundeck section also had gun carriages molded integrally with it, with (I think) separate barrels.  All this matches the photo. 

Dr. Graham's book describes it as a "twenty-two inch model."  At 25.4 mm = 1 inch, 558 mm = 21.968 inches.

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Posted by cthulhu77 on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 9:05 AM
 Man oh man, I wish they would re-release the Calypso and accompanying Catalina...I've been trying to find those kits for three years now, and I am constantly outbid !
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Posted by DanCooper on Monday, August 28, 2006 2:46 PM
And than to think I was holding the Calypso (set with booklet or video I believe) in my hands, doubting if I would by it or not... that must have been about... euh three years ago or so....

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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 1:31 AM

Thats a good list, but I'd add the Hornet with the B-25s, and the Korean War Essex class carriers with the full hulls. They came with Corsairs, Panthers, Cutlasses and other little planes.

Those were really a pain: I couldn't push them around upright on the carpet.

What I REALLY wanted back in 1966 was a Bismark, Prinz Eugin or Sharnhorst/Gneis... 

Bondoman

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Posted by aardvark1917 on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 1:20 PM

I built the ChrisCraft when I was a kid; I can still remember the crappy gold Big Smile [:D] paintjob I put on some of the parts.

Good excuse to get it again and make up for that!

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Posted by Lord-Dogbert on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 4:31 PM
A friend just gave me a 1958 Pine Island kit in the original box and the kit untouched. I was about to start building it and decided to see how much it's worth first. Anyone interested?
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Posted by DURR on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 4:36 PM

my friend  i see this is your 1st post  so......

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