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  • Member since
    May 2003
  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 9:09 AM

Those are all perfectly legitimate questions.  I agree with George W.'s answers.  I have reservations about the old Alexander Magoun book (his reconstruction of the Mayflower's hull is pretty awful, and Constitution enthusiasts hold his discussion of her history in very low esteem), but I think its points about seventeenth-century rigging are generally sound.  We need to bear in mind, of course, that there's virtually no firm information about early-seventeenth-century merchant vessels.

The lower yards most emphatically did slide up and down the masts in those days.  The topsail yards were quite small (generally about half as long as the lower yards) and, in heavy weather, frequently got sent down, presumably to lower the ship's center of gravity.  There are contemporary pictures of ships in storms with their topsail yards sent down and their lower yards tilted radically, so the exposed sail area is almost triangular.  The lower yards also were used as derricks for handling cargo and other heavy weights.  And it appears that lowering the lower yard was often - though not necessarily always - part of the routine of furling the sail. 

I have in front of me at the moment a fine, recent book called The Tudor Navy, 1485-1603:  The Ships, Men, and Organization, by Arthur Nelson.  On p. 107 of it is a beautiful, full-page, black-and-white photo of the Mayflower II, with her sails furled, her topsail yards lowered to the caps, and her fore, main, and mizzen yards lowered almost to the deck.

The use of the belaying pin, and the date of its initial appearance, is a most interesting subject.  It looks to me as though the "pin rail" on the inside of the bulwark is a relatively new concept, probably dating from sometime in the eighteenth century.  (I put pinrails like that on my model of the frigate Hancock, which was built in 1775-1776.  In retrospect that may have been a mistake, but I don't think anybody knows for sure.)  I believe some belaying pins have been found in the wreck of the Mary Rose, which sank in 1545.  The belaying pin certainly was an obvious concept; I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be older than that.   

Bluejacket (www.bluejacketinc.com) makes some nice Britannia metal blocks and deadeyes (including the old heart-shaped ones) that would be highly appropriate for this model.

In earlier posts I've mentioned the Mayflower II, the replica that crossed the Atlantic in 1957.  I have a great deal of respect for that ship; she's one of the best full-sized reconstructions of historic vessels ever.  A lot of research has been done since William Baker designed her (and she's now considerably older than the real Mayflower probably ever got).  But to my knowledge no later researcher has ever identified any major mistakes in either her design or her rigging.  Photos and drawings of her are good sources for modelers.

Incidentally, I'm currently reading a new, best-selling book on the subject, Mayflower, by Nathanial Philbrick.  It says scarcely anything about the ship (the Pilgrims' crossing of the Atlantic is over by the end of the second chapter), but it's a fascinating, somewhat revisionist view of the whole subject.  The typical American's understanding of the Puritans and the Pilgrims is heavily influenced by mythology.  There is, for instance, no historical reason to associate the boulder now known as "Plymouth Rock" with the Pilgrims; the story of how that rock got its current hallowed status is both interesting and amusing.

The Mayflower is an oft-modeled subject, but certainly a worthwhile one.  One big advantage of a modeling subject like that is that it allows plenty of room for individual interpretation.  You aren't bound by what Magoun, Anderson, Baker, or anybody else says; any of those individuals would cheerfully ackowledge that his reconstruction of the ship involved a great deal of guesswork.  Good luck.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

  • Member since
    February 2006
  • From: The green shires of England
Posted by GeorgeW on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 3:15 AM

Alexander Magoun in his book ‘The Frigate Constitution and other historic ships’ in the section about Mayflower says:

 ‘The deadeyes, by which the standing rigging was secured, although possessing the familiar three holes, were not yet circular in shape. The drawing he shows is of a heart shape.

 This is not clearly apparent in any of the contemporary model pictures I have  seen, or indeed in the drawings in his own book of the Mayflower said to be constructed from a study of drawings and models of ships of that period.

 The plans he shows are dated 1927

 I have looked recently for information on deadeye shape but found very little. As you say Dr Anderson does not make reference to it, although his illustrations seem to show the familiar circular shape.

 I have found only one reference to ‘pear shaped’ deadeyes in the book by Dr Frank Howard – ‘Sailing ships of War 1400 – 1860 in which he suggests they were a short fat pear shape and used in English ships up to about 1640, but again I have been unable to identify this shape in the books I have.

 Regarding Parrels these were the standard method of attaching the lower yards in the period.  Magoun  lacks certainty about the method used on Mayflower for raising the yards, as he considers that she was fitted out for her voyage at the beginning of the period of transition  from tie and halliard to jeers, and suggests that she may have had both.

Fiddle blocks and hearts were certainly used on ships of an even much later period; Magoun says that the Mainstay would have been set up with either deadeyes or blocks, thinking that deadeyes the more likely.

He states that there were no fife rails for belaying, and in most instances running rigging belayed to cleats nailed  to the bottom of the masts or inside the bulwarks or simply secured to the railings.

As for the use of belaying pins Dr Anderson makes reference to them in his book, and suggests their use in the period he covers, but James Lees considers their use on small ships on racks attached to the shrouds, from around 1745, but not used on large ships until the end of the eighteenth century.

Magoun does show in his drawings pins thro' the foc'sle rail on Mayflower which would accord with Dr Anderson's view.

 

Hope this is of some help.

  • Member since
    June 2004
  • From: Camas, WA
Mayflower rigging questions
Posted by jamnett on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 12:23 AM

I've been working on the Trumpeter Mayflower and was wondering about what kinds of blocks and fittings would be correct for a 17th century merchantman.  A few questions came up in my mind.

Should the shroud dead eyes be triangular/heart-like or round?
Were belaying pins used to secure the ends of lines at that time?
Were fiddle blocks or hearts used at all in that period, or would those be found only on earlier ships?
This might be a dumb question, but were the lowest yards, the "main" ones moved up and down the masts, or were they fixed in position?  I ask this because a friend of mine said he could make up some parrells and asked about how many I might need for this ship. 

I have The Rigging of Ships in the Days of the Spritsail Topmast, but it doesn't provide information on blocks, pins, etc.,  for somebody like me who wants to build in more accurate detail but having a limited knowledge of blocks and fittings for this period. 

Any information, or direction to other reference material, would be helpful.

Thanks,
Ron

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