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Trumpeter 1/35 scale LCM - Completed

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  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Derry, New Hampshire, USA
Posted by rcboater on Monday, September 25, 2006 9:26 PM
 EPinniger wrote:
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I've seen this particular toy 1/32 Sherman in the past, and it's quite heavy, being diecast metal - how does it affect the "seaworthiness" of the LCM when operated on water?

I always assumed that LCMs carried tanks as well as lighter vehicles, as the old Airfix 1/72 kit is usually boxed with a Sherman! Maybe this is another Airfix inaccuracy, like the "BT-K" squadron code on their first Spitfire kit (which was never historically used on a Spitfire)



The boat has quite a bit of displacement, and can carry the heavy toy with ease.  The model actually needs the ballast- I usually run it with the tank aboard.

A combat loaded Sherman was really too heavy for the LCM(3)-- that's why the LCM(6) was developed.  The LCM(6) was simply a (3) with an additional 6 feet of lenght added to the hull amidships.  There' a picture in the Naval Institute Press book on Allied Landing Craft of WW2 that is relevant-- it shows a boat with the unpainted 6 foot section added it the middle, and a Sherman aboard as cargo.

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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Sunday, September 24, 2006 2:56 PM

 EPinniger wrote:


I always assumed that LCMs carried tanks as well as lighter vehicles, as the old Airfix 1/72 kit is usually boxed with a Sherman!


A combat-loaded M-4 Sherman weighed in excess of 66000 pounds (i.e. 33 tons)  http://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/m4sherman.html    A LCM-3 had a cargo capacity of a 30 ton tank or 60000 pounds of bulk cargo. http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/ref/Transport/transport-2.html

An LCM-3 would not have had the reserve buoyancy to deliver a combat loaded Sherman through the surf for landing in a combat assault.   LCMs were able to carry Shermans across fairly placid water (ie. rivers),  but these tanks were not ready for immediate combat.  The old Airfix pairing of a Sherman and a LCM continues to propagate mythic capabilities to this craft.  

A more appropriate vehicle to be carried by a LCM-3 in the assault would be a halftrack.   In later waves, artillery or logistical equipment such as bulldozers or deuce-and-a-halfs would be landed via a LCM-3

 

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    January 2006
Posted by EPinniger on Sunday, September 24, 2006 2:09 PM
Great work with the weathering on your LCM! Having the bow ramp activate the motorised tank is an interesting idea.
I've seen this particular toy 1/32 Sherman in the past, and it's quite heavy, being diecast metal - how does it affect the "seaworthiness" of the LCM when operated on water?

I always assumed that LCMs carried tanks as well as lighter vehicles, as the old Airfix 1/72 kit is usually boxed with a Sherman! Maybe this is another Airfix inaccuracy, like the "BT-K" squadron code on their first Spitfire kit (which was never historically used on a Spitfire)

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Derry, New Hampshire, USA
Trumpeter 1/35 scale LCM - Completed
Posted by rcboater on Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:52 PM

Here's a picture of my Trumpeter 1/35 scale LCM.

I painted the model using Pollyscale and ModelMaster Acrylics.  Weathering was done  using pastel chalks, with an overcoat of flat to seal everything.  I used two of the figures from the Trumpeter crew set- the Cox'n and the gunner.

I converted it to radio control- it makes a very nice running model.

The cargo started out as a 1/32 scale diecast motorized Sherman tank-- I got rid of the stickers and out of scale details, repainted it, and used some decals from the scrap bin.  Most viewers assume it is a plastic model, and not a converted toy.  (I know Shermans weren't generally carried in these boats, but it was the only motorized vehicle I've found so far.)

Currently, I only have rudder and throttle control.  My plan is to start the tank my remote control. The bow ramp is operable- my intention is to have relase that is triggered by full rudder plus full trim-- the idea being that as the ramp falls open, it pull a lanyard that turns on the battery powered toy, which will then run up onto the beach under it's own power. ..




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