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Question on ship plans
Posted by hasse n on Saturday, October 7, 2006 8:29 AM

Hello there,

I was a sub sailor on the Swedish sub. H.M.S. SÄLEN in the 70´s. And now it´s time to build it.  Where can i get some plans of this Swedish sub. Need help from you in the forum.

http://www.ubatsvapnet100.com/subs/Hajen1954.asp

Thank´s  Hasse.

 

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Posted by CG Bob on Saturday, October 7, 2006 8:38 AM
Have you tried contacting the Swedish Navy or the Government Archives?  Someone in the SubCommittee may be able to help with providing the plans or a lead on getting them.  There are several SubCommittee members in Sweden.
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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Saturday, October 7, 2006 8:41 AM

I think I'd start with the Swedish Ministry of Defense and the builders.   As a former sailor you may have some standing with them.  Try to obtain a set of hull lines.  This will give you the hull form.  The sail and deck structure will be easy once the hull form is known. 

Unfortunately most photos of submarines show them surfaced,  with 75% of their structure hidden below the water's surface

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Posted by hasse n on Saturday, October 7, 2006 10:00 AM

Thank´s  Cg Bob and Ed Grune for your answers to my question.

Yes i will try that. But now to the real problem, what to do if i can get some plans of the sub. i was on. I know nothing of building in balsa or resin or something like that. I´m a kit builder. Is there any easy steps to made the model in resin. That would be great to learn from someone. I realy want to do this model. By the way, i want to thank you all in this forum for the help you have already given me in my Hawaiian Pilot and J.L.Hanna prodject. It´s not easy to restarted in this hobby after a long time rest, times have thanges with all this aftermarket products.

Hasse.

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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Saturday, October 7, 2006 10:58 AM

This is a 133 foot US Coast Guard buoy tender I'm scratchbuilding

I started with the hull lines (elevation and cross-section). 

I shot them to the desired size on a Xerox machine.   The parts were cutout and glued to some sheet plastic.

The cross sections are glued in place on their corresponding station lines.   When cutting the cross-section be sure to account for the thickness of the plastic which is the center "keel".

I was taught this method by Jon Warneke of Iron Shipwright.   Jon's method is to wrap the completed rib and keel assembly with masking tape and fill the spaces with resin.   Then when the resin is hard remove the tape and sand smooth - back to the ribs.   Fill imperfections with putty.   Apply a deck and applique details.

I departed from Jon's method by attaching the deck to the ribs & keels so that I could get the desired deck camber.   I also put intermediate braces beteen the ribs and skinned the frame with sheet plastic.  I then filled imperfections with CA and Bondo putty.  That was a repetitive process to get a smooth hull.   Then apply applique details such as the rubrails and scuff plates.  

Other strucures are plastic sheet and/or plastic wrapped around plexiglas blocks.   Later photoetched details such as hatches will be added to the superstructure. 

I can see a similar process for your submarine.   Form your hull from the plan's cross-section and elevation.  Pour a hull.   Use scribed plastic for any planked deck.  Add details such as flood and drain ports.   Laminate sheet plastic to the desired thickness & sand to shape for the sail.   Make control surfaces out of sheet plastic, cut to shape. 

Hope these thoughts give you some suggestions on how to proceed.

 

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Posted by hasse n on Saturday, October 7, 2006 11:30 AM

Thank´s again Ed.

Try to get the plans then i will do as you tell my to. This looks fun.

Hasse.

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