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Clear 1/700 air wings - Worth it?

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Posted by mfsob on Monday, November 6, 2006 11:14 AM
Well, my sanity gave out after painting and decaling 37 aircraft for the Enterprise's deck (plus the ones I was less careful with for the minimal hanger detailing I did). We're talking 17 F/A-18Cs, 4 E2-Cs, 4 EA-6Bs, 5 S3-Bs, and 7 SH/HH-60s ... and that is going to have to be enough!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 3, 2006 7:38 PM

Nice to see I'm not the only one who has this problem.

 

Still don't know what to do. I can't bear the brushpainting either, the paint is on too thick for the detail or to thin to cover properly at all. And as for how many, I am building the whole USN CVs from Forrestal to Reagan, some LHAs and a LHD in 1/700/720. About half way there. All to be populated with aircraft yet!

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Posted by reklein on Wednesday, November 1, 2006 10:32 AM
1/700!!! OMG I was thinking 1/350!!! Never mind the pics . I know what you're talking about now. I was just thinking maybe one could just grind the canopy off and replace it after painting with a bit of clear plastic. But in 1/700 you'd have to do it under a binocular microscope fer cryin out loud.
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Posted by mfsob on Wednesday, November 1, 2006 8:42 AM
reklein - these 1/700 aircraft are solid, but the clear styrene is very, very brittle - flex it just a tiny bit and snap!, there goes a wing tip (ask me how I know). Besides, I know of no saw with a thin enough blade to be able to slice off the canopies even if it was possible. I need to post a picture of how tiny these things are ... I could fit three F/A18s on a quarter!
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Posted by reklein on Tuesday, October 31, 2006 6:39 PM
I have'nt built any of those little planes. Are they solid? If so could the canopy just be cut of and after painting a new clear conopy glued in place with say R/C56? Don't know just thinking on the keyboard.
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Posted by mfsob on Tuesday, October 31, 2006 11:10 AM

David Harris - I think what ends up defeating most masking efforts is that the area in question is just so fricking small. Like, less than 1/8 inch long and very narrow and rounded.

I tried Bare Metal Foil; while it adhered OK, trying to burnish it down tightly on that canopy dome and then getting a clean cut edge with a new X-acto blade defeated me despite numerous attempts. Various kinds of tape, same thing - there just isn't enough plastic there for it to hold tightly to. I thought about liquid masks, but ... trying to get a crisp edge on a compound curve surface is beyond my meager abilities. So I did it the hard way - a No. 2 brush, a little bit at a time, and LOTS of patience. Which was OK if I was only doing 1 or two of these little guys, but more than 40 ...

And scottrc, I experimented and settled on several shades of dark gray to paint the "floors" of my jets - anything else, especially black, looked very, very weird from several angles! But I am playing with a thin band of gold paint on the canopy sides of my EA6-Bs, which I think will give a bit of that "gold dome" look that Prowlers have in just the right light.

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Posted by scottrc on Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:11 AM

I paint the bottom with some green zinc and put a little dab of liquid mask over the canopy then prime them.  However, I too feel there is a lot to do with very litle gain.  Plus, its a real bugger when a clear part falls off the tree and onto a white floor.

Scott 

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Posted by David Harris on Tuesday, October 31, 2006 6:12 AM

Maybe a liquid masking agent like Humbrol Maskol or something similar,  would be a better way to go about covering the canopy area than trying to tape it?

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Posted by dnatech on Tuesday, October 31, 2006 12:10 AM

I have just begun working on the Trumpeter 1/700 CV-14 USS Ticonderoga and I was looking at the clear a/c thinking what a pain in the rear it is going to be to try to mask, prime and paint those little birds to keep the canopy area clear. I am seriously considering just priming the whole thing and painting the canopy silver or something rather than trying to mask it off, especially if I go and buy some addition a/c to fill out the deck more.

Steve

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Clear 1/700 air wings - Worth it?
Posted by mfsob on Monday, October 30, 2006 11:55 AM

I'm finding myself agreeing more and more with Paul Boyer's statement in the latest issue of FSM - in 1/700 scale, trying to paint around the canopies of aircraft molded in clear styrene just to get the "clear canopy effect" gets you to the point of diminishing returns very, very quickly.

But since I started it that way with my USS Enterprise air wing, I'm stuck with it for this build, at least. In the future, though, if I do another aircraft carrier, I don't think I'm going to be concerned about what color of plastic the air wing is made out of.

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