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Heller La Reale mast question
Posted by Grymm on Wednesday, November 1, 2006 10:35 AM
Okay, looking over the instructions, there is no indication of how the "yard" is attached to the mast.  Typical Heller.  Anyone know?  Was it just tied off?
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Posted by Big Jake on Saturday, November 4, 2006 8:33 AM

Hi,

Based on my building of other heller "big" kits, they did not provide a way for the yard to attach to the mast.  I've always mounted the rigging I needed to the yard and as I place the yard against the mast I get it straight and then add a drop of ACC glue to hold it in position.  Then rig as normal, covering the glue spot with sizing or parrell beads or something that looks close.

Jake 

 

 

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Posted by Grymm on Monday, November 6, 2006 8:03 AM

Thanks Jake.  That's pretty much what I'm doing.  But, how was a yard attached on a Galley?  I don't see how a parral would fit, given the yard is at an angle on the mast. 

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Posted by jtilley on Tuesday, November 7, 2006 1:50 AM

A lateen yard does require a slightly different parrel arrangement - not so much because of the angle at which the yard is carried, but because the whole mechanism is handled differently than a square sail.  The parrel has to be set up in such a way that it can be slacked off whenever the ship comes about, so the yard can be swung up to a near-vertical position and the lower end of it can be heaved bodily around to the other side of the mast.  When the ship steadies on the new tack, the parrel has to be hauled taut again.  While all that's going on, a jeer or halyard arrangement keeps the yard from sliding down the mast.  The same considerations apply to any lateen yard - such as the mizzen yard of the Soleil Royal.  The arrangement is, by definition, cumbersome and clumsy.  That's why, in Western Europe, the lateen rig died out and got replaced by the gaff, or gaff-and-boom, rig.

In the late seventeenth century there were several slightly different ways to deal with the problem of rigging a parrel on a lateen yard.  The subject is discussed in some detail in Dr. Anderson's The Rigging of Ships In the Days of the Spritsail Topmast, pp. 231-233.  There's also a good drawing of a representative lateen yard parrel in Lees's Masting and Rigging of English Ships of War, p. 105. 

I haven't checked to be sure, but I don't think Mr. Landstrom's beautiful pictures of La Reale show clearly how the parrels were rigged in that particular class of ships.  I also don't know if that detail is shown in the Musee de la Marine plans.  If either of those sources does show the parrel arrangement, that's the configuration I'd use.  Otherwise I'd rely on Dr. Anderson.

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Posted by Chuck Fan on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 12:00 AM
 jtilley wrote:

The same considerations apply to any lateen yard - such as the mizzen yard of the Soleil Royal.  The arrangement is, by definition, cumbersome and clumsy.  That's why, in Western Europe, the lateen rig died out and got replaced by the gaff, or gaff-and-boom, rig.

 

While the triangular mizzen course bent to a lanteen yard were ultimately replaced a gaff spanker,  I think it is unlikely this change was made to relieve any difficulties brought about by the lanteen yard itself or its perreling based on the evolutionary steps that was undertaken to go from the one to the other.

If the lanteen yard or its perrelling was the main problem, then one would expect the yard would be the first thing to go, or at least it would go at the same time as the first of any other major changes.    But instead we found that the lanteen yard was the last to go during the transition.   The triangular sail was the first to go.       In perhaps 1750, It was replaced by a quadrulateral sail laced to the mizzen mast itself on its leading edge, but still bent to the lanteen yard on its diagonal edge.   After the triangluar sail was replaced by this 4 sided sail, the lanteen yard was retained for at least another 30-40 years.     As late as 1788, HMS Victory was still depicted with a long lanteen yard on her mizzen.     Only in 1790s was the lanteen yard replaced with a gaff.

I am not sure why the triangular mizzen course sail was replaced with a smaller 4 sided mizzen course sail in the first place.    Perhaps there is some advantage to lacing the sail to the mizzen mast.   Perhaps there is a need to move the center of thrust of this sail further aft.    The latter would be consistent with the observation that the gaff spanker which eventually replaced the 4 sided mizzen course was much bigger than the mizzen course, thus shifting the center of thrust further aft.

Initially after the triangular mizzen course was replaced, the mizzen yard was retained.   I always thought the lanteen yard was eventually replaced to clear the area in front of the mizzen, and allow more staysails to be set there.   

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Posted by jtilley on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:47 AM

The replacement of the lateen by the gaff-and-boom-rigged spanker (or "driver") was a long process, with different ships carrying different rigs at the same time, but there's no doubt that it happened because the gaff-and-boom rig was more efficient.

The big drawback to the lateen rig (please note the spelling - no N in the first syllable) was, as I said in my last post, that the sail had to be furled and reset every time the ship came about.  (The process also necessitated casting loose and re-rigging several important lines, such as the "bowlines" that controlled the forward, lower end of the yard.)  The first lateen sails seem to have been triangle-shaped, with a temporary, rectangular extension, called a bonnet, added to the bottom when the wind was light.  The lateen sail actually became a quadrilateral while the yard retained its full length.  In about 1680 the bonnet fell out of favor, and the bottom of the mizzen itself was extended to compensate.  (My source on that point is James Lees's The Masting and Rigging of English Ships of War, 1625-1860.)

The next step in the evolutionary process seems to have been the adoption of a sort of hybrid system: the full lateen yard was retained, but the sail (still called the "mizzen") was shaped like a trapezoid, with its head secured to the yard and its forward edge to the mizzen mast.  That arrangement made a big differece to the handling of the ship, in that it eliminated the necessity of resetting the sail when the ship came about.  (The yard could be left on the same side of the mast all the time; which side didn't make much difference, though contemporary models usually seem to show it on the starboard side.)  Mr. Lees says that configuration came into use in 1730, and remained common in smaller ships until 1745 and in larger ones till 1780.  (Those dates, as Mr. Lees undoubtedly would be the first to agree, are approximate; he's talking strictly about English warships, and in any case there were no universal rules about such things.) 

The boom-rigged driver (or spanker) seems to have been introduced originally as a fine-weather replacement for the lateen-rigged mizzen.  Falconer's Universal Dictionary of the Marine, 1780 edition, defines the driver as "an oblong sail, occasionally hoisted to the mizzen peak, when the wind is very fair.  The lower corners of it are extended by a boom, or pole, which is thrust out across the ship, and projects over the lee quarter."  The head of the driver often was extended by a short "driver yard," rigged (rather like a studdingsail yard) with a halyard running to the peak of the mizzen yard.  (There's a good drawing of that configuration in Mr. Lees's book, p. 112.)

Contemporary references from the second half of the eighteenth century can be confusing.  I bumped into this particular problem when I was working on my model of the frigate Hancock, which was launched in 1776.  A contemporary description of her by Commodore Sir George Collier, in a letter to Admiral Lord Howe after her capture by the British, says she "has a mast in lieu of an ensign staff with a lateen sail on it has a fore and aft driver boom with another across two top gallant royal masts pole mizzen topmast a whole mizzen yard and mounts 32 guns...."  There's room for some interpretation there (partly due to Sir George's disdain of punctuation), but it's pretty clear that she had both a full lateen mizzen yard and a boom-rigged spanker - as well as a small lateen sail set on her ensign staff.  When I was working on that little model I talked those contemporary references over with several other folks, who had just as much trouble sorting them out as I did.  (We never did figure out exactly what that phrase "with another across" meant.)  Our eventual conclusion was that the Hancock had a total of three sails aft of her mizzen mast:  the mizzen (with its head laced to the lateen yard and its forward edge to the mast), the driver (with, when set, its forward edge secured to the mast, its head secured to the mizzen yard and the short "driver yard," and its foot to the boom), and a small lateen yard set to the ensign staff, sheeted to a small boom that, I think, ran out through the middle of the carved rattlesnake on the transom. 

Most of those features are confirmed by the series of paintings depicting the capture of the Hancock, attributed to Francis Holman and now in the Peabody-Essex Museum.   Those paintings show a total of five British and American warships.  Most of them have full-length lateen yards on their mizzen masts, though the Hancock, disturbingly, appears to have a gaff - and no boom.  (That sort of contradiction between written and pictorial sources, unfortunately, is pretty common.  Holman probably never actually saw the Hancock; Sir George Collier did.)  One of the ships in one painting has her driver set and her lateen mizzen furled. 

That whole arrangement does seem to be unnecessarily complicated.  The Holman paintings suggest that the lateen sail on the ensign staff actually was pretty large.  Handling it when the ship came about must have been quite an exercise.  The whole ensign staff, with the lateen yard mounted on it, would have to be struck, and reset when the ship settled on the new tack; otherwise the boom, as it swung across the quarterdeck, would clobber the ensign staff.  Well, warships of that period had relatively big crews - but the scene on the Hancock's quarterdeck when she went about must have looked like a rugby match.

Mr. Lees gives 1810 (again, we need to take that as an approximation) as the date by which the gaff-and-boom-rigged driver (or spanker) became a permanent fixture, and the term "mizzen" ceased to be used as the name of a sail.  By this time the crossjack (or crojack) yard - a "square" yard, occupying the same position on the mizzen mast as the fore yard and main yard occupied on their respective masts - had been in use for more than a hundred years, but rarely if ever had a sail set to it.  (Neither the Victory nor the Constitution set a sail on her crojack yard.  Its principal function was to provide a means of sheeting the mizzen topsail.)  It seems, in fact, that sailing warships even in later periods rarely if ever set sails from their crojack yards - though merchantmen certainly did from the middle of the nineteenth century onward.  (The Cutty Sark set a crojack, as did most of the famous American clipper ships.  It's easy to see why the crojack wasn't more popular, though.  When the ship was running before the wind, the crojack would partially becalm the main course; when working to windward, the spanker would becalm half of the crojack.  It's fairly rare to find a photo or painting of a ship that doesn't have either the crojack or the spanker furled.)

None of this is directly relevant to a French seventeenth-century galley, which unquestionably had a straightforward, old-fashioned lateen rig (and a relatively large crew to manhandle the lower ends of the yards around the masts when the ship tacked).  But there's no doubt about why the lateen rig fell out of favor in Western ships.  The gaff-and-boom rig was easier to handle - and, with the addition of the mizzen staysail at about the same time the mizzen yard got chopped off, offered almost exactly the same amount of sail area.  The most bewildering part of the story is why the full-length lateen mizzen yard, with no sail hanging on the part projecting forward of the mast, lasted as long as it did.  At least one contemporary source (I confess I've forgotten which one) suggests that keeping the traditional mizzen yard intact was a good idea because it might come in handy as a spare main topsail yard.  Sailors in those days were good at coming up with excuses for sticking with the old ways of doing things.

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Posted by jtilley on Monday, November 20, 2006 4:00 PM

This past weekend some of my students and I took a field trip to Jamestown, Virginia.  As east coast American members probably know, the state historic site there includes full-size, working reconstructions of the three ships that brought the first English colonists to Jamestown in 1607, the Susan Constant, Godspeed, and Discovery.  (Actually the Discovery is gone at the moment; a new replica of her is under construction in honor of the 400th anniversary next year.)  Our host was a fine gent named Mike Lund, who's in charge of "ship interpretation" - meaning that when the ships sail, as they do fairly regularly, he serves as the captain of the Susan Constant.  I took the opportunity to ask him just how his crew handles the lateen mizzen when she goes about.  Here's the sequence of events as Mr. Lund described them to me:

1.  Cast off the sheet.

2.  Brail up the sail, using the brails.

3.  Cast loose the port and starboard mizzen bowlines (the tackles that control the lower end of the lateen yard).

4.  Dip the yard slightly by easing the halyard (so the lower end of the yard is within reach of the guys standing on the quarterdeck).

5.  Ease the parrel tackle (so the yard can move a couple of feet away from the mast).

6.  Top up the yard, using the mizzen lift (the tackle that runs from the upper end of the yard to the main topmast).

7.  As the helmsman throws the whipstaff over, grab hold of the lower end of the yard and heave it around behind the mast to the other side of the ship, taking the bowlines with it.

8.  Ease the mizzen lift, so the yard goes back to its previous angle.

9.  Heave on the halyard, to bring the yard back to its original height.

10.  Heave the parrel tackle taut.

11.  Cast off the brails, so the sail is set again.

12.  Re-reave the bowlines, and haul the weather bowline taut.

13.  Heave the sheet taut.

According to Mr. Lund, that evolution can, after considerable practice, be accomplished by three men in about a minute.  But he says the process is so clumsy that if he knows in advance he's going to have to do a lot of tacking on a particular day of sailing (e.g., a trip up or down the James River), he doesn't bother to set the mizzen in the first place.  The ship handles reasonably well under the sails on the fore and mainmasts.

The Susan Constant is, by comparison with the vessels we've been discussing, a small ship.  Imagine what that evolution would be like in something like the Soleil Royal or a Reale-class galley (or, for that matter, the frigate Hancock), and you get some insight into why the lateen rig fell out of favor in Europe.  The whole picture changes, though, if the section of the sail in front of the mast is cut off.

In any case, to a modern yachtsman, who's accustomed to watching his boom-rigged mainsail pretty much take care of itself (except for trimming) when he goes about, the old lateen rig in any of its manifestations must look ridiculously cumbersome.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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