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1/72 Scale Gato now available

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  • Member since
    August 2005
  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Friday, February 15, 2008 6:35 AM

 Kit builder wrote:
Bill, if I build another of these, I may take you up on that very kind offer. And come to think of it, a conversion from Gato to Balao wouldn't be too taxing as an exercise....

Kit.

James Corley of Nautilus Models makes several conversion sets for the big Gato

http://nautilusmodels.com/Gato/72Gato.htm

He gave me a Tang conning tower conversion set for review.  He inconveniently gave me the laser etched deck for the Batfish (the two don't go together).  I'm waiting for the new deck to arrive.   James has done the heavy lifting for you if you intend on making a full cut-down conning tower version.   I understand that he has a Wahoo tower in the pipeline

 

They come with a photoetched set and templates to make the pipe-railing.  At 1:72 scale flat photoetch does not look convincing. 

  • Member since
    February 2008
  • From: Cornwall, United Kingdom
Posted by Kit builder on Friday, February 15, 2008 5:45 AM
Bill, if I build another of these, I may take you up on that very kind offer. And come to think of it, a conversion from Gato to Balao wouldn't be too taxing as an exercise....

Kit.
If only....
  • Member since
    March 2007
  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:34 AM

As mentioned in another thread, I work near the USS Pampanito, at Ghirardelli Sq. and while I realize it's a Balao, I'd be happy to go over there and look at anything within reason. My friend Neil is a board member of its foundation, so I can get in to see most anything.

Bill

  • Member since
    February 2008
  • From: Cornwall, United Kingdom
Posted by Kit builder on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:39 PM

I'm a bit of a latecomer to this one, having had to endure a forced layoff from modelling, but I'm catching up.

I've built Revell Germany's Gato class as USS Flasher, one of 5 options given for the European release, straight from the box and I have to say I'm impressed.

As I've worked through it, however, I've noticed a few small items that no-one appears to have mentioned in any of the reviews I've read.

As has been said, these vessels were in a constant state of flux, in terms of their fittings, but in all of the (very few) photo's I've come across in researching Flasher, the deck fittings for the 1944-45 period given for this variation seem to show a good number of differences in the routing and support of the various antenna cables, with a similar set up on the foredeck to that included for the aft deck in the kit.

I've also noted that, as configured in Revell's offering, the 40mm on the cigarette deck cannot rotate without the platform coming into cantact with the railings. I compared this with photo's of Flasher's conning tower (sail) as displayed at Groton, CT. and can quite clearly see that the railings have been adapted to allow rotation of the gun platform. It is also clearly apparent that the cigarette deck has been extended radially in an arc, creating a circle of deck around the gun. The kit would seem to display the cigarette deck configuration as it would have been when the Gato class boats had a second 20mm fitted aft, or when the 40mm was fitted foreward with a single 20mm fitted.

It is also clear in these pictures that there is a broom attached to one of the antennas on the masthead, as done to indicate a clean sweep by a returning submarine. I realised then that the curiously broom shaped antenna head included by Revell is actually a representation of this broom and not an antenna at all! Why they've managed to include this small and transient detail as a permanent part of the masthead array, whilst completely missing the widened section of the cigarette deck is something of a bewilderment.

Another omission is the four exhaust outlets through the aft casing, which given the overall level of detail, is surprising.

If I build another of these, I may well correct these shortcomings and inaccuracies, the shape of the cigarette deck and it railings being the most challenging, but for this one, I am happy to let it slide and just get to grips with this impressive kit and its grand paint scheme.

Incidentally, for those who have mentioned it, the underside is anti-fouling black, which is a semi-gloss or satin, whilst the top sides and decks are a very dark grey (gray) for which Revell Germany's "Anthracite" is a good match, as is RLM 66 black-grey. 

If only....
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 13, 2006 11:20 AM

Well,  I would be very interested if you can post a few pics here,  but don't make a special trip just on my account.  If you do get pictures, I would be very interested in seeing what color the deck is painted.  It's hard to tell if it's painted black or just very dark gray on some of the early war pictures.

 

thanks,

  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 12, 2006 11:22 AM

I live in Holland MI and would be willing to drive to Muskegon to the USS Silversides SS236 for pictures.

My folks live about 5 miles from the museum so it's not a big imposition.

Let me know of any interest and I'll try to reply asap.

www.silversides.org

  • Member since
    May 2006
Posted by waste gate on Friday, November 10, 2006 4:24 PM

My local hobby shop had two of these.  I liberated them of one.

 It is very large.  The limber holes are pre-drilled and the upper pressure hull is molded in place.  The fore and aft dive planes articulate.  The unassembled kit is flash free and locator pins come seperate for hull assembly.

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: USA
Posted by weebles on Wednesday, November 8, 2006 9:36 PM

I just received mine today.  After opening the kit and reviewing the parts and plans this is one impressive model.  I suspect that Revell will bring this out in a couple of different variants in the coming years.  The way they designed it leaves it open for some variations in flood hole patterns, sail, etc.  Their will be no grinding out flood holes on this boat though.  They are all opened up for us already. 

As good as it is there are opportunities for after market improvements and changes.  It will be interesting to see what comes.  Mine will sit on the shelf for at least a year while I watch the upgrades come along and observe some of the builds that I'm sure we'll be seeing in the forum.

Packaging was excellent by the way.  Somebody did their homework.

 Have fun!

Dave

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    January 2003
  • From: arizona
Posted by cthulhu77 on Wednesday, November 8, 2006 4:04 PM

 WhoooHooo!

 

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    October 2004
  • From: South Bend
Posted by thomcmdchief on Wednesday, November 8, 2006 7:51 AM

Papa Echo 64,

 

The packaging seems better than the VIIC.  The hull halves, and attached to a atout piece of cardboard with wire ties, and is taped to the inside of the box to keep it from shifting.  To get the hull out, you have to cut the tape to reach the parts underneath.  The parts bags are similar to the VIIC, but the bags are also taped to the inside of the box to keep them from shifting.  I did not find anything broken like railings etc as I did with both of my VIIC's, so I'd guess Revell learned its lesson.

 

Thom

  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: Seattle
Posted by Papa-Echo-64 on Tuesday, November 7, 2006 11:33 PM

Can you tell us if Revell learned anything from the VII-C kit....are the smaller more fragile parts better protected and NOT attatched to HUGE FAT part runners/ trees?

Looks great!!

Just when I thought my lucky buy this week on a 31" Disney Nautilus for 250.00 was BIG.

Straighten up and fly right.....
  • Member since
    October 2004
  • From: South Bend
Posted by thomcmdchief on Monday, November 6, 2006 10:44 AM

I received my this morning as well, and it's huge.  At first glance, seems more detailed than the VIIC's, especially on the bridge.  I'm going through the dircetions at this minute, and can't wait to jump in and start building.

 

Thom

  • Member since
    August 2005
  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Monday, November 6, 2006 9:50 AM

 

http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/artikel.php?id=2342

Completed model article at Modelversium.   The article is in German, but I can still read the pictures.

[or pump the article thru an online translator]

  • Member since
    December 2003
  • From: Oklahoma
Posted by old soldier on Sunday, November 5, 2006 12:13 PM
Well it is still in the box,but I can tell you that the hull is made up in three parts and that it is big.
Old Soldier, RET. Semper Fi Oooh Rah
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 5, 2006 9:34 AM

 old soldier wrote:
Got mine today at about 1230 hrs. by Fedex

 

Cool !!  Can you give us a review?  How does it compare and differ from the German boat that Revell released? I'd love some pics if you can post them.

thanks 

 

  • Member since
    March 2006
Posted by TD4438 on Sunday, November 5, 2006 5:54 AM
I have decided I have to get one of these.I toured a Gato class boat Friday.The USS Cobia at the Wisconsin Maritime Museum.The boat has been meticulously maintained.Hell,even the radar and diesels still work.

  • Member since
    December 2003
  • From: Oklahoma
Posted by old soldier on Saturday, November 4, 2006 6:45 PM
Got mine today at about 1230 hrs. by Fedex
Old Soldier, RET. Semper Fi Oooh Rah
  • Member since
    November 2005
1/72 Scale Gato now available
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 1, 2006 2:44 PM

The Revell model is now available on some hobby sites.  Can someone give a out-of-box review?

Tia

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