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How to paint PE parts?

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  • From: Virginia
How to paint PE parts?
Posted by Tug Guy on Sunday, November 5, 2006 6:54 PM

I haven't worked with PE parts before and have to ask how to handle these pieces before painting. Do they need a acid rinse with like white vinegar before painting? Do you paint them on the tree then snip them off?

 Tug Guy

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    August 2005
  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Sunday, November 5, 2006 7:37 PM

I have not found that it is normally required to clean brass before painting it,  most brass comes clean.  Unless, that is, you have been fondling it with your pizza-grease stained hands.    I have had little problem spraying a light coat of enamel,  either straight out of the rattlecan or airbrushed.     If I am painting with acrylics I will most likely shoot a light coat of primer (PlastiCoat from WalMart or American Tradition from Lowes) before airbrushing.  

Spray the parts right on the fret.   I've tried the route of forming them before painting -- and it was twice the hassle.  

Use a pair of draftsman's dividers to measure the run of brass which you need.  Find logical end points - bulkheads, ladder spaces, gun tubs, etc.  Transfer the measurement to the brass and cut (measure twice - cut once).   Work in shorter lengths 2 to 3 inches tops.   Resist the urge to attempt to put the railings on an entire side of a ship, just because you have a piece of brass long enough.  That is a sure recipe for a wavy railing.

Use a new #10 Xacto blade (that is the curved one) and cut on a piece of glass or bathroom tile.  Cut with a rocking motion, like a paper trimmer.  Use a fine sanding stick to remove any remaining nubbins.  Go back later after the brass is attached and hand touch up any cracks or nicks in the paint.

Use a white glue to tack the rails in place.  My favorite is Aleene's Tacky Glue from the craft store.  Put a pin-point drop of glue at each end and every 1/2 inch or so.  The white glue will grab,  yet allow the railing to be adjusted.  Once the white glue is dry - go back and run a bead of CA along the bottom rail to firmly cement the rail in place. 

After you make your hand touch ups, overspray everything with a flat coat to kill the shine of the CA and to blend everything together. 

  • Member since
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  • From: Virginia
Posted by Tug Guy on Monday, November 6, 2006 9:57 AM

EdGrune thank you for this information. The PE is still in the plastic bag untouched by my hands. I feel better knowing how to proceed with this type of part.

 

Tug Guy

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Posted by Dreadnought52 on Monday, November 6, 2006 2:40 PM
I have found that when using acrylic paints it is best to give the PE a bath in white vinegar first. I don't like to use enamels so I take the extra step of the vinegar bath to avoid a coat of enamel first. The paint seems to hold on much better when being shaped and handled to apply to the ship.
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  • From: West Virginia, USA
Posted by mfsob on Tuesday, November 7, 2006 8:04 AM

Well, the one time I didn't give the PE fret a vinegar bath, the paint refused to stick, be it enamel or acrylic. I must have gotten a rouge fret, because I ended up rinsing it in acetone after the vinegar failed to give the brass any tooth.

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    May 2006
  • From: Virginia
Posted by Tug Guy on Tuesday, November 7, 2006 8:29 AM

After reading all the posts I figure it can't hurt to use white vinegar on the PE parts before painting them. Better safe than sorry I guess. Thanks guys for all the help in this.

Tug Guy

  • Member since
    February 2006
  • From: Boston
Posted by Wilbur Wright on Tuesday, November 7, 2006 1:38 PM

Personally for GMM ship railings, which I've used for instance on the large Tamiya Enterprise. I will attach unpainted then use MM enamel with a brush. 

As posted here... work in smaller segments ... I feel it does take time in learning how to super glue these without over doing it.  I cut the pieces off with a Xuron fine snips, not a blade, and have various small pliers to get the bends correct.

 

They really add to a model. the GMM radar on the Big E is a masterpiece!!! 

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  • From: West Virginia, USA
Posted by mfsob on Thursday, November 9, 2006 11:44 AM
I agree with you about the GMM radars on top of the Enterprise's island, Wilbur ... but I have to say, by the time I got done with all four of them, I was about ready for the rubber room. Especially the SPS-49, which I already had deep emotional scars from after my Perry-class frigate build.
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