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Giving copper bottom a tarnished look? Re-post update

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Giving copper bottom a tarnished look? Re-post update
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 9, 2006 10:03 PM

I know this type of question has been addressed before but my question is a bit different I think.  I spray paint my copper bottoms.  Due to health and resulting dexterity problems, copper sheathing and such are not practical for me.  I am trying to figure out a way, a simple one hopefully, to give my spray painted copper bottoms a slightly tarnished effect much like the early tarnish stage seen on old pennies (not the new ones).  I am not interested in applying any other color effects.  So far I have considered 2 possibilities but have not experimented with them yet.  The first is to spray the copper area with a thin coat of transparent black.  The second is to apply a thinned out acrylic brown wash.  If anyone sees possible problems or potential disasters with these ideas, please let me know.  If anyone has his or her own ideas of how to accomplish this effect or have found a proven way, I would greatly appreciate your input, advice and opinion.  If anyone is interested in the kit that I want to do this to, it's a 1974 release of the 1/96 Revell Cutty Sark which, by the way, I picked up on ebay still factory sealed for just $26.00.

 

I use spray paint from cans for my copper bottoms.  I do not want any green shades or coloring on my copper.  I want to simply (I wish) darken the copper a small amount and dull it just a bit more than what you get when spraying with dull coat.  Before anyone asks or suggests, many years ago I did use an airbrush but do not have the setup anymore to do so.  I have considered buying and using that cheapy Testor's (I think) cap airbrush kit and make my own mixture since it would be used just this one time but I don't know where to start to get the desired effect.  The only idea I have come up with is to mix the copper with small amount of dark brown or maybe even a very small amount of black.  Keep in mind that I don't want a drastic change in the copper color, just a little bit of darkening.

 

Thanks for all the previous responses.  I know that with the help of you guys I'll get this done.

Dale Scoggins 

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    January 2006
Posted by Zeke32 on Friday, November 10, 2006 1:38 PM

Dale,

    It's been a while since I've done this, but I used to spray the lower hull with copper enamel spray paint.  Then, after it had dried thoroughly, I would apply a wash of thinned down black or dark brown, using a cotton ball to apply it in vertical strokes (but not so that it looked streaky).    Like so many thing in modeling, you just need to practice with it until you achieve the effect you're looking for.  I'd suggest using acrylic paints thinned down with water/alchohol.

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    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:17 PM

Testors makes what they call a "multi purpose sprayer" (http://www.testors.com/catalog_item.asp?itemNbr=2207).   That may be what you referred to in your post.  I got mine at Hobby Lobby for about ten bucks, and it works great.  You can buy cans of compressed air,too (http://www.testors.com/catalog_item.asp?itemNbr=1197).  Now that's doing things on the cheap (which is the way I have to do things).  The neat thing about it is, the cap fits on a regular Testors paint bottle, several of which I have saved after they were empty and cleaned, so you don't have to use the large bottle that comes with the sprayer.  You can make different sized siphon tubes with small straws like the ones you see in convenience stores for stirring coffee and can be purchased at Wal-Mart in bulk.  The sphion tube that comes with the sprayer is the same size as the straws.

Why not just mix copper enamel paint with brown and purple until you get the desired effect?  I know what you're trying to achieve, and that would be my first effort to achieve it.

Put x number of drops of copper paint on a piece of cardbord.  Add one drop of brown and/or purple and mix them up.  Keep an old penny handy to compare the color.  Keep experimenting until you get the desired result.  Make sure you remember the number of drops of each paint you used so you can mix a larger batch in aproximately the same proportions.  I've had to do this with other projects.  This ain't rocket science, and it ain't high art, but it works pretty well.

 

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    February 2006
Posted by Grymm on Sunday, November 12, 2006 11:35 AM

Here's what I do for darkening a copper hull:

1) Paint entire hull area with copper.  I use acrylics.

2) Let dry overnight.

3) Take dark brown, or black, paint and water it down until it is essentially just black water, but not too thin.  You can also use a special type of paint that is used specifically for washes.  They are called "inks" and you can find them at hobby shops that carry Games Workshops miniatures.

4)  Now, I use a brush, but I know others have used paper towels, coat the entire copper area with this wash/ink.  Becareful not to let any serious runs happen.  Properly done, you will notice not only that the copper is now darkened, but that each individual copper panel is now more defined.

5)  Let this dry over night.

6) You can either leave the hull like this, or you can take a large brush, dip it into your copper, then wipe the brush off, leaving pigment inside the bristles.  Then lightly, very lightly, go over the entire hull.  This will highlight the edges of each individual copper panel, bringing out detail, while leaving the darkened areas intact.

7) From here is when I then go into adding the white/green mix for good weathering, but I read that you do not want to do that.

I'm not the best modeller in the world, and I'm sure that someone else has an idea or two that would work better, but this is just how I do it.  Good luck with your Cutty Sark.  I finished that very kit about 4 or 5 months ago.  It sits proudly in my boy's room and he loves it.  Once finished it is a beautiful ship...

 Grymm

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