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Good reference material for Gato class submarines
Posted by weebles on Friday, November 10, 2006 6:42 AM

Does anyone have any recommendations on reference material for Gato class submarines?  It would be great if somebody who has visited the USS Cobia has some photos they could share.

Thank you

Dave

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Posted by EdGrune on Friday, November 10, 2006 8:06 AM

The best resource is the Gato-class Plan Book by the Floating Drydock.   The hard-copy book has been out of publication for several years, but Tom Walkowiak [sp] of FD has just announced that he is re-releasing the book on CD.

http://floatingdrydock.com/update.htm

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Posted by steves on Friday, November 10, 2006 10:40 AM
There is a nice little photo book of the USS Cod, purported to be the only submarine left in original WW2 configuration, published by the Oxford Museum Press.    It is available on Amazon for $12.95.

Steve Sobieralski, Tampa Bay Ship Model Society

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Posted by seaphoto on Friday, November 10, 2006 11:09 AM

Classic Warships will be releasing a book on the  Gato class by the end of the month.

 If you want a CD, I have one covering the Cobia and the Cod

 http://wmunderway.8m.com/seaphoto/catalog/CDsales/cobia.html

 Kurt

 

 

Kurt Greiner

Interested in large scale, radio control warships? http://www.warshipmodelsunderway.com

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Posted by TD4438 on Friday, November 10, 2006 7:28 PM
I have some recent photos of the Cobia.I can email them to you if you like.Let me know where to send them.

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Posted by weebles on Friday, November 10, 2006 10:42 PM

Ed,

Thanks for the lead.  I placed an order today along with a few other items.

Kurt,

The check is in the mail for the photo CD

Thanks guys!

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 12, 2006 7:25 PM

I plan on driving to Muskegon MI to photo the USS Silversides SS236 as reference material for my Gato model. It's only a 45 minute drive for me and I'd be willing to share the photos with you if you'd like.

Any particular areas that you'd like pictures of? 

www.silversides.org 

Dave 

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Posted by TD4438 on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:51 PM
Hey weebles.Check your email for those pics.Sorry it took so long.Also,the Revell kit includes markings for the Cobia and Silversides.

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Posted by weebles on Thursday, November 16, 2006 8:28 AM

Thanks so much for the photos.  I also received the Submarine Plan eBook from The Floating Drydock.  This is an excellent reference and although I'm not close to getting through it all yet I highly recommend getting this.  I can't wait to see what the aftermarket types come up with for this boat. 

Dave

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Posted by TD4438 on Thursday, November 16, 2006 8:33 AM
Incidentally,if you wanted to model the Cobia as it is now,you'd need light gray,flat black and very little weathering.The boat is in pristine condition.The only place I saw any real weathering was at the waterline.A bit of a rusty look over the black paint.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 16, 2006 1:40 PM
NAVPERS 16160, The Fleet Type Submarine is the training manual for these boats and it can be found at the San Francisco Maritime National Park Assoc. (home of the USS Pampantino) web site.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 20, 2006 9:28 PM

Interesting you should mention the Silversides. Of the four boats referenced in the Gato boat instructions, she's the only government boat. Note the difference in her limber holes from the other three (look at the photos, the diagrams are all identical, even the same sail number). When you take your photos, take note of the fairwater. I confirmed the "step" in the side of the Cobia's sail in current photographs of her, but I can't see any such "step" in any of the wartime photos I've seen.

What a GREAT kit though.

How do you plan to cut the limber holes? Long lines of identical holes intimidate me.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 23, 2006 10:47 AM
 wee_vee wrote:

How do you plan to cut the limber holes? Long lines of identical holes intimidate me.

I might use a Bridgeport mill, possibly a cnc mill. A pin router bit can do a pretty good job on stuff like that.

The sail might present a problem as the shape is entirely different on the Silversides. I'll figure that one out with a little time and luck.

I'm hoping to get up to the boat Friday and get a bunch of shots. I'll keep you posted.

The Silversides was used in a film a few years ago ("BELOW" starring Bruce Greenwood, an absolutely horrible film IMHO) and was repainted to reflect the war-worn post-patrol appearance of returning boat, complete with rust streaks. I'll see if I can get some copies of these while I'm at the museum.

One note about the propeller guards on the Gato and Balao boats- some published information says that the propeller guards were removable and were not installed during war patrols. I don't have any first-hand knowledge about the accuracy of that info but thought I'd post it. 

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