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Revell Troupe Transport Ship
Posted by mikerice on Friday, January 5, 2007 10:00 PM

Hi

Back around the late 60's I built, I believe A Revell model, a ship that was a troupe transport ship.

It was loaded with lots of landing craft. If anyone remembers this model, each land craft was molded seperate and they where stacked on top of each other before placing them on the ship itself. It could of been a ship just deliverng landing craft.

A model kit number would help. Also if it is a OOP KIT.

Thanks

Mike Rice

 

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Posted by Puma on Friday, January 5, 2007 11:54 PM
Maybe the troop attack transport USS Montrose / Randall?  I build this back in the '60s (still have several of the landing craft in my parts box).  It was recently reissued by Revell Germany.  I note that is is currently listed at Megahobby.

USS Montrose at Megahobby

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Posted by EPinniger on Saturday, January 6, 2007 4:18 AM
The Revell Montrose/Randall is almost certainly the kit you're thinking of. Renwal also produced a kit of an attack transport, in about 1/500 scale. I think this was the USS Seminole (it may also have been sold under other names) Unlike the Revell kit, this one is long out of production and quite rare.
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  • From: West Virginia, USA
Posted by mfsob on Saturday, January 6, 2007 9:42 AM

puma nailed it - and in that perfectly lovely box scale, to boot!

All kidding aside, when I started drooling over an AK, I opted for the Haskell class from Loose Cannon Productions -  http://home.earthlink.net/~loosecannonproductions/Kit15.html - because it gives you 24 LCVPs and a host of other goodies, plus all the aftermarket bits I've accumulated. If 1/700 scale isn't too intimidating, give that kit a look.

 

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Posted by jtilley on Sunday, January 7, 2007 9:12 PM
The Revell kit, according to Dr. Graham's fine book, "Remembering Revell Model Kits," appeared for the first time in 1956. It represents a Haskell-class attack transport, and originally appeared with the name U.S.S. Randall. (The Randall may have been picked because she had played the part of the fictitious U.S.S. Belinda in the movie "Away All Boats," which was released the same year. The novel on which that book was based, incidentally, is one that anybody who's at all interested in the subject has GOTTA read.)

It was only about the tenth ship kit Revell ever released. As of 1955 the only ships in the catalog were the battleship Missouri, the Chris Craft Flying Bridge Cruiser, a highly conjectural (and ludicrously inaccurate) submarine Nautilus, the PT-212, the destroyer The Sullivans, the heavy cruiser Los Angeles, the carier Franklin D. Roosevelt, and the liner United States. The year 1956 was a good one for ship enthusiasts; it saw the release of the harbor tug Long Beach, the freighter Hawaiian Pilot, the hospital ship Haven, the tanker J.L. Hanna, and the guided missile ship (ex-seaplane tender) Norton Sound, as well as a modified issue of the Baltimore-class heavy cruiser in the form of the guided missile cruiser Boston, and Revell's first sailing ship, the Constitution.

Nowadays, of course, the APA kit really shows its age. The 20mm guns (or blobs vaguely resembling them) are cast integrally with the decks, as are the "railings." And the hull has the peculiar flat-bottomed configuration that several other fifties-vintage Revell kits did. The hull is sliced off somewhere around the "empty" waterline; there's no propellor, and the rudder is represented by a stub sticking down from the stern. But the model is intended to be mounted on a pair of "trestles." At the time, nobody seems to have commented on how ridiculous a waterline model (or something like one) mounted on stands like that looked.

Revell had an excuse for not reproducing the underwater hulls of some of its early subjects. The hull lines of such ships as the Iowa-class battleships, the Midway-class carriers, and the S.S. United States (which was built under a government subsidy on condition that she be made available to the Navy in wartime for use as a very-high-speed troop transport) were still classified in the mid-fifties. But there surely was nothing secret about the hull form of an attack transport.

That kit was an important one in my family, because my father had served as a junior boat group officer on board a Haskell-class transport (U.S.S. Bollinger, APA-234). When my older brother saw an ad for the Revell kit in Boy's Life magazine, the whole family made a pilgrimage to the hobby shop to buy one. (Price: $1.49.) My brother was entrusted with the task of building it - though in later years I bought and built several myself.

The Revell kit, according to Dr. Graham, was on 1/376 scale. It was reissued under the name Montrose at least four times, in 1960, 1968, 1972, and 1979. (Dr. Graham's coverage stops in 1979, and he doesn't deal with European releases. I remember pretty clearly that the kit, in a reproduction of its original box, was among the Revell/Monogram "Special Subjects" reissues in the early eighties, and I think it's in the current catalog of Revell Germany.)

Renwall's Haskell-class transport, released a few years later, was on 1/500 scale. (All the Renwall warship kits were on that scale. That company was an early advocate of constant-scale ship kit collections.) To my knowledge it only appeared once, with the name U.S.S. Sarasota. (The Renwall attack cargo ship Seminole appeared at about the same time.) In some ways the Renwall kit was better. It had a genuine full hull (complete with propellor), and the 20mm guns, though pretty crude, were individual pieces. (I think Renwall may have been the first company to handle them that way.) I haven't seen it in many years, except for occasional appearances on the web - where, like most of the other Renwall kits, it commands extravagant prices.

Too long as usual. Please forgive the nostalgia of an Olde Phogey.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by hasse n on Monday, January 8, 2007 4:56 AM

Mr. jtilley,

your post are never to long. They are very valuable to this forum. For me that started building plastic ship models in the late 60´s and stil going strong with that, as a nostalgia memory. And for all of them that are newcomers it´s great information.

Keep on with your great post´s jtilley,

kind regards Hasse. 

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  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Monday, January 8, 2007 8:54 AM
hasse n - many thanks.

It occurs to me this morning that my statement about all Renwall ships having been on 1/500 scale wasn't quite correct. The company released several George Washington-class Polaris submarines that were considerably bigger. (They had hinged hull halves to reveal a great deal of interior detail that, as I understand it, was largely fictitious.) And sometime in the late fifties (I think) Renwall released a boxed set of about a dozen ships in 1/1200 scale, with a vac-formed blue plastic base on which to mount them. I don't remember all the ships that were in the set; they included the battleship North Carolina, an Essex-class angled-deck carrier, a light cruiser (with missiles), a Fletcher-class destroyer, a Buckley-class destroyer escort, a Polaris sub, an LST (I think), and scaled-down versions of the two amphibious ships we've been discussing: the Sarasota and the Seminole. These were all full-hull models (though I'm sure the underwater lines of some, if not all, of them were distorted); they were designed to sit in shaped depressions in the "sea" base. A year or two later Renwal broke that set up into two parts, selling two boxes of six or seven ships each - without the vac-formed base.

None of these kits, of course, comes close to modern standards. But fun to remember.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by thunder1 on Monday, January 8, 2007 9:43 AM

Hey Professor Tilley

Just to ditto what was said by Hasse N, your discourse on any subject is never too long winded and is always welcomed by the folks here on this list. Your writing style never "talks down" to anyone, making your posts enjoyable to read. I'm not much into sailing vessels, but I always read your posts regarding them, you bring a lot of knowledge to the table. So expound away! PS I had the Renwal USS COMPASS ISLAND and the "Nuclear Fleet" with vacuform ocean, I wish they were in my posession today and not in a land fill somewhere, what great memories... 

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, January 8, 2007 4:58 PM

 jtilley wrote:
But fun to remember.

Quite.  I remember the "George Washington" SSBN, if more from complaints about never picking up the inadvertently-launched polaris from it's spring-loaded tube.

I want to remember that the interior rather matched a Time-Life illustration (aka "artist's rendering") of the interior of a boomer.  I can remember submarine officers visiting the house and commenting sotto voce on the "imaginative" way the spaces were laid out.

Ah, nostalgia.

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