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"Sovereign of the Seas" (Airfix) completed photos
Posted by EPinniger on Monday, March 12, 2007 12:47 PM

After several months of work my Airfix 1/168 Sovereign of the Seas (or Royal Sovereign if you prefer - this was the ship's later name, and is the name Airfix put on the box, although the kit represents the ship "as built") is finally complete.
This is a LONG post, but it was a long and complex build, so hope this is OK!

(I think I posted some info on the real ship's history on my original "work in progress" thread, but to find more info on the ship, see the Wikipedia entry. To summarise, it was a revolutionary design, almost twice as big and heavily armed as previous warships, and set the standard for "ships of the line" for the next 150 years or so. It was also one of the most ornate warships in history, being covered with gilt carvings from the deck line upwards.

The reason for the delay is that halfway through rigging the shrouds I gave up and decided to put the model to one side for a while, mostly out of frustration at the difficulty of attempting to tie and glue the lines in place. The "while" ended up being over a month. I finally resolved to finish the model last week and found some new rigging material (very fine "mercerised" cotton thread) which is much easier to work with than the synthetic polyester thread I was previously using (the main cause of my earlier difficulties). Rigging the shrouds was still a pain (mainly due to the tiny + rather fragile plastic deadeyes)

I rigged the model according to the kit instructions (which may well not be accurate). It is far from being fully rigged, but is certainly the most complex rigging job I have done so far! I used black thread for the shrouds and a dark yellowish-brown colour (more or less like old rope) for the standing rigging, with the running rigging in a slightly lighter colour.
The shrouds are rigged by hand, after drilling out the deadeyes; this certainly, looks a lot better than the kit-supplied shroud/ratline assemblies, but I didn't add ratlines; in this relatively small scale you can probably get away with leaving them off.

Two overall views:



A note about the flags: I cut the Union flag and red ensign down to a smaller size, I know ships of this era commonly had very large flags (certainly in battle) but the flag sheet supplied by Airfix is very "papery" and unconvincing in appearance, so I wanted to make them a bit less conspicuous. I left off the royal flags (which fly at the mast tops) entirely, as these are even worse; they look like the cheap paper flags sold at the seaside to put on sandcastles (do you have these in the US?); I'm not sure these flags would have been flown on all occasions anyway.
All the flags are attached using halyards made from rigging thread.

The model is mostly painted with Revell acrylics; the deck is Earth Brown drybrushed heavily with Stone Grey (which gives a very convincing weathered deck appearance,IMHO). The gilding is represented with Revell Gold, highlighted with Citadel "Burnished Gold". Cannons are painted with Citadel "Brazen Brass" which gives a very realistic dull bronze appearance (I also use this paint on ship propellers; it's very close in colour to phosphor-bronze). Drybrushing with acrylic craft paint was used extensively to give a more realistic "wood" effect to the hull, spars and other parts, light weathering in the form of grey and grey-green paint was also applied to the hull below the waterline (which is painted with Revell Stone Grey to represent the tallow-based "white stuff" anti-fouling compound; a yellowish off-white colour seems about right for this)

Many models, both wood and plastic, of the Sovereign have the base colour of the upper works painted blue; however from checking references and asking other modellers on this forum, it seems that black was more likely, hence this is what I used for my model.

Close-up views, from stern to figurehead:





The model itself is only slightly modified from "out of the box" condition, though all the parts required extensive cleanup of flash and mould lines. I added structural detail to the interior of the bulwarks, knightheads to the base of the bowsprit, and a couple of barrels on the amidships deck (from the spares box; not sure which kit they were originally from).
I also closed up all the lower gunports, as like all Airfix sailing ship kits these are represented as solid squares in which are inserted gun barrel "stubs" - very unconvincing in appearance, and I didn't really want to cut them all open and install a scratchbuilt gun deck (as I did with my Airfix Victory) - hence I just glued all the lids shut.

A view of the stern gallery:


Closeups of the spars and rigging:



Airfix's moulded decoration on the hull and stern gallery is rather crude and simplified (although moulded fairly sharply) and doesn't really do the real ship justice (look at contemporary paintings, or the 1/48 museum model (forget the name of the builder) to see what I mean). The figurehead (representing the Saxon king Edgar on horseback) is also incredibly crude; I know this is a 1960s-vintage kit, but Revell were producing infinitely better detail on their sailing ships 5 years earlier. Nevertheless, when painted it still looks very impressive from a foot or two away.

I wanted to add more detail to the model in the form of figures, deck fittings, etc. but gave up with this as I couldn't find any suitably-clothed figures of the right size - those in the Lindberg 1/133 Wappen von Hamburg are the right era, but about 25-30% too large which is quite noticeable (they're about 7'-7.5' high in 1/168 scale).
In the case of the deck fittings, I couldn't find any references other than "HECEPOB" models (i.e kits from the likes of Mamoli and Sergal, of dubious quality and accuracy - in fact I think it was the Sergal "Sovereign" which was the subject of a highly critical article on these kits), which are certainly not a reliable reference source (considering that many of them are based on plastic kits in the first place). The result is that the decks of the finished model are rather bare and unfinished looking, but from a distance it still looks good.

There were a few times, particularly when doing the rigging, when I thought "why am I wasting time on this when I could be building a more interesting subject?"  Now it's finished, though, it makes me want to start work on the Wasa or St. Louis! (If I ever build these two, and the Lindberg Wappen von Hamburg, they will certainly look impressive on the shelf together)

However, this will probably be my last sailing ship build in a scale as small as this for a while (not counting steam-and-sail ships). My next sailing ship will be the Aurora 1/100 clipper "Sea Witch"; this will be a restoration of an old, built and painted second-hand model. I also plan to build the Pyro steam revenue cutter USS Harriet Lane (aka "Civil War Blockade Runner") soon.

A final note to JTilley or any other sailing ship experts on this forum - if I have made any serious errors with the rigging, or any other areas of this model, please let me know - I certainly won't be offended and it will help me improve my work in future.

Anyway - hope you like my model, and I hope it inspires other modellers to build this old kit - it is a bit crude and simple compared to, for example, the Airfix Wasa or Prince, but still looks good once built.

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Posted by lenroberto on Monday, March 12, 2007 2:27 PM

EP-  excellent model-  really like the paint detail.  If you don't mind-  I'd love a set of the pics you took so I can keep for future reference.  I have all in this series but have yet to tackle this one....Prince, Bounty, Royal Louis are done. 

email me at lrobertojr@aol.com

it would be appreciated. 

Once again-  great looking ship....

-Len

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Posted by EPinniger on Monday, March 12, 2007 3:54 PM

Tomorrow I'll try and find the photos of the museum model I mentioned - I'm sure I saved a link to them somewhere. This would definitely be the best reference for building your model. I've found a few other references online (including an online version of a 1950s book on building this ship from a wood kit) which I'll post tomorrow (don't have time now) 

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Posted by RedCorvette on Monday, March 12, 2007 6:51 PM

Nice looking model.  Great job on the paint!

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Posted by Big Jake on Monday, March 12, 2007 7:28 PM
OUTSTANDING great work on a small scale!

 

 

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Posted by JoeRugby on Monday, March 12, 2007 9:43 PM

Just getting into sailing ships and in no way an expert, I must state that the Sovereibn is absolutely fantastic!

I usually build wingy-thingys and have gotten a whole new appreciation for the hobby en toto and especially for ship modeling.  Your work is the epitomy of that apreciation !

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Posted by woodburner on Monday, March 12, 2007 10:51 PM
Congratulations, thats a beautiful job, and thanks for posting the pictures. The gold leaf work is especially handsome. I like the way you have shaded it, giving it a real three dimensional look, and the black is right on.

Looking forward to the restoration of the Sea Witch, and the steamer. Then maybe a Vasa, in red?

Congratulations again, Jim
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Posted by jtilley on Monday, March 12, 2007 11:59 PM

Looks mighty fine.  I agree entirely about the rigging of the shrouds and ratlines:  to set up the shrouds and omit the ratlines, on this small a scale, looks a great deal better than those awful plastic-coated thread abominations.  The rigging in general looks quite reasonable; the kit instructions obviously simplify reality a great deal, but in a sensible, rational manner.  (Airfix was always better in that way than Heller.)

Since you invited comments on the rigging, I'll offer one.  If you think it's important enough, it could be fixed with a minimum of fuss - and certainly is worth thinking about next time.  You've shown the topsail yards (and, I imagine, the topgallant and royal yards, which aren't visible in the pictures) in their raised positions.  They should only be in those positions when the sails are set.  When a sail is furled, its yard is lowered.  The parrel, which holds it to the mast, has a set of rollers that let the yard slide down until it sits on, or a few feet above, the cap near its lower end.

The difference between this model and the earlier Black Falcon, if I may say so, is really dramatic.  I'm sure we'll all be interested to see what EPinniger does next.

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Posted by EPinniger on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:03 AM
Thanks for your comments!

Here are some links relating to the Sovereign of the Seas that I've found:

This site has scans of a book from 1933 on building a wood kit of the ship:
http://www.thesovereignoftheseas.com/index.html

The incredible model at the US Naval Museum in Annapolis, Maryland (I assume it's 1/48 scale). Be warned, this model shows just how simplified the carvings on the Airfix kit are!
http://www.old.modelarstwo.org.pl/szkutnicze/galeria/inni/sovereign2/index.html

Photos of various wooden models built from kits - many of these are from "HECEPOB" type manufacturers so shouldn't be taken as a reliable reference on detail or painting, though they are all beautifully-made and impressive-looking models.
http://gallery.drydockmodels.com (this link doesn't seem to work at the minute)

A contemporary drawing of the ship, I'm virtually certain Airfix used this as a reference for their kit, as it's
very similar in appearance:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/Sovereign_of_the_Seas.jpg


About the position of the yards - this is because the kit, like all Airfix sailing ships, is meant to be built with (vac-formed plastic) sails - I almost always leave these off, as they look plasticky and unconvincing, deteriorate badly with age (even when painted), and in any case obscure much of the rigging and deck detail of the model. I don't think the kit instructions give any option to build the kit without sails, so they instruct you to glue the yards in the raised position.
I'm afraid I'm not nearly knowledgeable enough about the workings of the rigging and spars on sailing ships to realise that the yards should be repositioned if building the model without sails!.
I'll definitely try and fix this problem in my future builds, but there is no way I want to dismantle or reposition any part of the rigging on the Sovereign now it's complete; I don't want to risk damaging/breaking anything and having to redo some of the rigging or shrouds.

This isn't the second sailing ship I've built - apart from the Kearsarge (which may be a steamship but has a full sailing rig) I've also built the Airfix HMS Victory, Heller Nina and the tiny (about 1/400) Airfix frigate HMS Shannon. I built these last year, but, other than the Victory, never got round to photographing them - I'll post some photos of these soon if anyone's interested.

My Wasa, when/if I build it, will definitely have the upper works painted red, but I'm going to paint the decoration in gold; I'm not sure my skills are up to painting all of the carvings, and in any case I think the carvings look better gilded (even if this isn't strictly historically correct), particularly in model form.
One final question: does anyone have any pictures (either of the kit or a built model) of the Pyro/Lindberg "Sovereign of the Seas" kit? I'd be interested to see how this compares to the Airfix one, particularly in how the hull and transom decoration is represented. I do know it's a significantly smaller scale, probably 1/200-1/250.
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Posted by scottrc on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:19 AM

Nice work on the painting and details.  I had this kit but never liked the way the stern details were just molded all together so I gave the kit away.  Your preshading effects gives the model a lot more dimension.

 

Scott 

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Posted by jtilley on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:31 AM

A few plastic sailing ship kits have alternate locator holes to accommodate the yards in both raised and lowered positions.  I think the Revell 1/192 Constitution falls in that category.  The reason, I suspect, is that it was originally issued without sails (and with the yards lowered), and the vacformed "sails" were added for a subsequent reissue.  Fixing the yards in the wrong places is an extremely common error; many of the photos of completed hecepob kits on the Model Expo website are rigged that way. 

I don't think I've ever seen the Pyro Sovereign of the Seas outside the box.  If I remember correctly, it was one of the last sailing ships the company released before going out of business - the same generation as the St. Louis and Santa Catarina.  I'm pretty sure they all had injection-molded "sails," which stopped me from taking much interest in them.

The Sovereign of the Seas kit is currently being sold by Lindberg under the name (gag) "Blackbeard Pirate Ship."  My guess is that it's noticeably inferior to the Airfix version.  On the other hand, the Airfix one is considerably older.  (If I remember right, it was Airfix's second large-scale sailing ship - as opposed to the tiny ones that were sold in plastic bags.  The first large one, I think, was the Endeavour.)

Aurora also used to make a Sovereign of the Seas, on a considerably smaller scale. (At least the box was a lot smaller.)  I haven't seen that one outside the box either, but I'm not optimistic about it.  I think you picked the best of the available options. 

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Posted by DURR on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 5:15 PM

i think you did a wonderful job

the only thing is the flags, something about them just  doesn't sit right with the rest of the quality

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Posted by DanCooper on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 8:36 PM
Very impressive work EP, I've always admired people who can tackle those period ships. I have one remark, or rather a question though, concerning the guns. I see you have painted them bronze, as they were made in bronze, but wasn't it custom to paint them black ?

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Posted by jtilley on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:22 AM
Painting cast bronze guns black would certainly be practicable, and probably would make sense as a means of protecting them from the weather.  I know it was a common treatment for iron guns (and other ironwork) as late as the American Civil War.  But I can't recall having bumped into a reference to black paint being applied to bronze guns.  I'm sure Mr. Coooper has access to some Continental European reference materials that aren't easily accessible here in the U.S.  I'd be interested to learn of a reference source.   

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Posted by DanCooper on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:41 AM

 Oh, I can see now that my question may have been interpreted as a remark or a comment, in no way have I done any research on this subject, it's only that the few real cannons from that period I see in my town (some are even used here to protect the corners of narrow streets against reckless drivers colliding into the old houses Smile [:)] ) are blackened. That, and ofcourse me reading O'Brian's Aubrey and Maturin books have led me to believe that most guns, recardless the material they're made of were blackened. Sorry for the confusion I may have caused.

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Posted by EPinniger on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:11 PM
 DanCooper wrote:
Very impressive work EP, I've always admired people who can tackle those period ships. I have one remark, or rather a question though, concerning the guns. I see you have painted them bronze, as they were made in bronze, but wasn't it custom to paint them black ?

I'm certainly not an authority on this subject, but whilst bronze guns on merchant vessels and smaller warships would probably be painted black or brown to save having to polish them (I've certainly read of this being done) - I'd imagine that bronze guns on a prestigious ship like the Sovereign would almost certainly be polished to add to the overall appearance. After all, there would be plenty of crew to do the polishing work (unlike a merchant ship) and the problem of weathering and maintenance surely couldn't have been any greater than with the gilt decoration. I drybrushed the guns with light brown to give a slightly tarnished appearance, but this isn't very obvious in the photos.
Maybe in its later incarnation as the Royal Sovereign (it was cut down to two gun decks, and probably had other modifications) it might have had painted guns, but the Airfix kit represents the ship as built.

 DURR wrote:

i think you did a wonderful job

the only thing is the flags, something about them just  doesn't sit right with the rest of the quality

I agree with you (read the comments on the flags in my first post). I cut them down in size to make them less conspicuous and omitted the royal flags entirely. In future I'll probably try scanning the flags and printing them out on thinner, rougher paper to reduce their glossy, papery appearance. The flags are attached using halyards, though - in the first closeup photo it looks like the flag is wrapped around the jackstaff (as Airfix recommend you to do! this looks bad enough in 1/600 scale let alone 1/168) but this is not the case.

A final note about how I painted the gilt carvings to get a more realistic "relief" effect: I first painted the whole area in matt black. I then drybrushed the carvings heavily with gold (Revell Gold acrylic in this case, but any would be suitable). Next I added a dark brown oil wash, and then highlighted (lightly painted the edges) some of the more complex carvings using Citadel "Burnished Gold" which is a fairly pale gold colour. Finally I retouched the black base colour around the carvings.

Anyway, thanks again for the comments and I hope my model inspires others to try building similar ships - if you have any other questions about rigging or painting techniques please ask. Please note though that I am not an expert of any kind on sailing ships, or building models of them!
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Posted by Flitch on Saturday, July 14, 2007 7:20 AM

     After reading a very old copy of Mariner's Mirror, I visited the Rotunda museum at Woolwich, London.  After a lengthy search, I found and identified one of the cannon from the "Souveraigne of the Seas" (alt. spelling); it was a dull brown with a slight patina and some verdigris, but no black paint.  As I understand it, the point of supplying bronze cannon to prestige ships, aside from their toleration in use (as distinct from iron guns which burst without warning), was that when polished, they added a lustre to the appearance of the vessel.  The Souveraigne's ordnance was entirely "brass", as was the outfit provided for HMS "Prince" 1670.

     The guns of the Souveraigne were described by name under the nominal system then in use. Even so, Cannon (a specific type), varied in weight by as much as 300lbs as did,  I suspect, their lengths.  The ship also carried four "Cutts" - 2 culverins and 2 culverin drakes; these were guns cut down to remove damage, e.g. burst muzzle or faults in the fore end of the barrel.  The name was eventually used to describe guns with deliberately shortened barrels. 

     I believe the gun I "found" is now at Chatham Historic dockyard.  I told the Curator at the Rotunda what he had laying outside on the grass (!), for all the impact it had, I could just as easily have said I'd trodden on an ant!   

     Finally, of the two contemporary pictures of Souveraigne, the background to the gold carvings is either black or dark green; Landstrom appears to opt for black, whilst the Payne engraving is indistinct in this respect.  I recall (vaguely) being told by Trinity house that their painting shews green, but this remains to be confirmed, always assuming that the ship depicted is Souveraigne.  There was an extraordinarily beautiful rendition of the ship by Henry B. Culver, for Mr. Thomas A Howell.  An entire page of the Illustrated London News, August 5, 1922, was devoted to photographs of the model.; whether it's the one referred to above, I have no means of knowing.   Hope this helps, Flitch

       

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Posted by millard on Saturday, July 14, 2007 2:44 PM

Excellant job. That isn't a easy kit to work with.Alot of fragile parts.Bravo!

Rod

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Posted by Imperator-Rex on Tuesday, February 5, 2008 3:57 PM

 EPinniger wrote:

I hope my model inspires others to try building similar ships

It sure did! Seeing your model made me want to build one myself! Just one little question: how long is the hull of this model (without any masts)? If I decide to go ahead and build it, I plan to have it exposed right next to Heller's 1/150 "Le Superbe", and I fear the Airfix model is going to look too small...

Regarding your kit, I have 2 comments I'd like to share:

- the flag: if you want to discard paper flags, you might consider getting cotton flags at http://www.loyalhannadockyard.com/FLAGS-FABRIC.htm; they sure do look more realistic.

- the history of the kit: for all those interested (jtilley?), have a look at http://space.newscientist.com/article/mg12416964.400-ships-that-scal…autical-ingenuity-in-recreating-the-sailing-ships-of-the-past-.html

 

Best regards,

Chris 

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Posted by searat12 on Tuesday, February 5, 2008 5:03 PM

Nice job on a tricky model!  A couple points; I think you are quite right to have painted the upper works in black, as the references I have (Great Ships, the Battlefleet of King Charles, and a couple others) all show the Sovereign with black upper works, including an anonymous painting from 1640 showing the stern, a portrait by Jacob Knyyffe from 1673, and even the engraving by John Payne just after completion is most likely intending to be black (everything is in sepia tones with no real black anywhere in the engraving!).  While it was very common for upper works to BE in blue, it does not appear that this was ever the case with the Sovereign. 

As for cannons, if it was a warship and the cannons were bronze, you can bet the cannons were polished to a fare-thee-well on a daily basis, and particularly if the ship in question is a flagship, let alone THE flagship!  Gun captains get very fond of their charges, and go to great efforts to get that little bit of extra polish and grease where needed!  That said, these great ships were often not in commission (placed in 'ordinary') for long periods, at which time the upper masts, spars and rigging were sent down, all the stores removed, even most of the cannon removed for storage ashore and the gunports left open for ventilation.  Those with cannon remaining within would usually have them painted with brown paint as a preservative, but at the first hint of returning to commission, the newly assigned gun crews first task was to clean off all the paint and polish them guns!!

One final point about flags; you can make the paper flags a bit more realistic by simply getting them wet, bending them around to give the appearance of 'waving' and then either allow them to dry, or dry them with a hair dryer on 'low.'  As the Sovereign was often a flagship, the royal flags at the masthead were flown when a member of the royal family was aboard (there is a painting of the 'Prince' sailing home from Spain with then Prince of Wales Charles for his coronation, and the royal flag flies at the main masthead).  As the Sovereign was often commanded by a member of the royal family (Prince Rupert, or Prince James), it often had the royal flag flying.....

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Posted by kp80 on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 6:05 AM

A beautiful representation of a beautiful ship!  Thanks for sharing your pics.  Your paint job is fantastic.  I've always been curious about the Revell acrylics, but have not seen them for sale in the US...how did you like them?

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Posted by enemeink on Thursday, February 7, 2008 4:29 PM
great build. this is on my wish list now if i can only find one.....
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Posted by warshipguy on Saturday, May 10, 2008 9:39 PM

Greetings! I am new to this forum and have been building ship models for almost 50 years. I thoroughly enjoyed the pictures and have one further recommendation. You should rig the block and tackle for the guns. Unrigged guns would run loose on deck.

Just to let my fellow sailing ship enthusiasts know; I recently sent Hornby Hobbies, the current owner of Airfix, recommendations to expand the Airfix line of sailing warships. I focused my recommendations on the Royal Navy of the Napoleonic Wars.  I also cited the several lines of articles in this forum to their attention.  Please everyone, do the same! We must let the manufacturers know of our interests.

Thank you!

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Posted by jtilley on Sunday, May 11, 2008 3:39 AM

Warshipguy - welcome to the Forum!  You've raised an important subject that certainly deserves our attention.

Several threads here in the Forum have been devoted to "wish lists" of new kit releases.  In the five years or so that I've been taking part, a handful (not many) of the ideas for new twentieth-century warship kits have actually materialized as new plastic kits.  I wish I could be optimistic about the possibilities for new plastic sailing ship kits; that's my personal favorite field of modeling. 

Unfortunately, though, the truth of the matter is that it's also one of the least popular ones - among the manufacturers, if not among hobbyists.  I have no idea how the number of plastic sailing ship enthusiasts compares to our friends who build aircraft, armor, car, and railroad models, but the manufacturers seem to think our numbers are negligible. 

Neither Revell, Airfix, or Heller (who used to be the three leaders in the field) has issued a genuinely new sailing ship kit in almost thirty years.  The last new Revell sailing ship kit (according to Dr. Thomas Graham's fine book, Remembering Revell Model Kits) was the excellent little Viking ship, initially released in 1977 - and, fortunately, reintroduced into the Revell Europe catalog a few months ago. 

The Revell USA picture could hardly get any worse for ship modelers.  (Please note:  I'm referring here strictly to the American Revell operation - the only one that's covered in Dr. Graham's book.  Revell Germany has introduced a handful of new sailing ship kits, and reissued several from other manufacturers, since Revell USA dropped out of the market.)  The company's website currently shows a total of eight ship kits.  One, the big Gato-class submarine, is a relatively new release; the youngest of the others is the 1/570 Titanic, originally released in 1976.  There are two sailing ships:  the old 1/192 Constitution from 1956 and a "Caribbean Pirate Ship" that in fact represents an amusement park prop that used to sit at Disneyland.  It's based on the "ship" that appeared in the 1953 Disney cartoon "Peter Pan."  I'm a huge admirer of Disney animation, but.... 

I think the last new Airfix sailing ship was H.M.S. Bounty (one of the company's weaker efforts, in my personal opinion), which, if I remember correctly, appeared in about 1979.  (I may be a little off about that one, but I'm pretty sure there have been no new Airfix sailing ships since 1980 at the latest.)  I can't identify or date the very last of the new Heller sailing ships, but I'm fairly certain it appeared around 1980.  As I understand it, Heller was for a time planning on a number of major sailing ship projects as follow-ups to its 1/100 Victory.  But the corporate management, under pressure from severe money problems, made the conscious decision to abandon that phase of the hobby.

Those dates are especially depressing when one considers that the era of the plastic scale ship model kit only began in (depending on how one counts) about 1952.  (That's when a little company called Gowland started selling its tiny plastic "ships in bottles," several of which later were issued by Revell.  A model railroad manufacturer, Varney, was, if I remember right, selling an extremely basic American submarine kit molded in some early form of plastic a couple of years before that; the Varney sub - which, in modified form, is still being sold under the Lindberg label - may have claim on the title "first plastic ship model kit."  Maybe somebody can think of an earlier one.)  Revell, Airfix, and Heller have, in other words, been out of the sailing ship business longer than they were ever in it.

There are other reasons to be depressed about the subject.  Imai, which many modelers (including me) regard as one of the best producers of plastic sailing ship kits - if not the best - had a brief heyday in the 1970s and early '80s before going out of business.  (Some of its sailing ship kits are available nowadays under the Academy and Aoshima labels.)  I was optimistic about the relatively new Russian firm Zvezda for a while, but after producing a nice medieval cog (in two different boxes) and a couple of somewhat dubious-looking ancient galleys, its sailing ship efforts seem to have ground to a halt.

On the other hand, Airfix's new owners, Hornby, have a good reputation for genuinely understanding and appreciating the essence of serious scale modeling.  (I'm not clear about Heller's current situation.  The two companies were operating under the same management for a while, but as I understand it they parted under bitter circumstances.  Does Hornby actually have possession of Heller's molds?)  And Revell seems to be undergoing some corporate changes that may - may - portend positive developments for serious, adult scale modelers.   By all means, let's continue to let the manufacturers know we're out here and anxious to spend money on high-quality products.  Maybe they'll listen.  And maybe one or more of the current East Asian giants in the field - say Tamiya, Dragon, Hasegawa, or Trumpeter - can be pursuaded to stick a corporate toe in the water.  (Dragon - how about a series of British ships of the line, to go along with those beautiful Essex-class carriers?)

One of the many pleasant things I've learned from this forum is that there are more plastic sailing ship enthusiasts - and, for that matter, more plastic ship modeling enthusiasts in general - out there than I thought.  I certainly would like to believe that the concept of the plastic sailing ship kit may be reborn.  But at the moment it sure looks like, if it's not dead, it's on artificial life support.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by woodburner on Monday, May 12, 2008 2:10 AM
Thats a beautiful job, congratulations. I especially like the fine dimensions of the rigging, which look very much in scale with the model.

You are right on target for using black on the upperworks. Its not only based on paintings of the time, but also a contemporary description of the ship when she was new. It specifically says:

" . . . all which workes [molding and sculptures] are gilded quite over, and no other but gold and blacke to bee seene about her . . . "

And that is exactly what you have shown so well. Keep up the good work,

Jim
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Posted by warshipguy on Monday, May 12, 2008 12:14 PM

JTilley,

I agree with you about the deplorable state of our hobby. Like you, I am a sailing ship enthusiast who laments the fact that the major manufacturers have ignored our needs for decades.  However, I firmly believe that the time seems ripe to begin letting the manufacturers know of our concerns and our desires for new products.

For example, I remember the spurt of growth throughout the 1970's when the new 1/700 and 1/350 scale ships were released, only to slow throughout the 1980's and '90's. Then, Trumpeter and Dragon began their runs to revive warship modeling.  ICM, Zvesda, Alan, et. al. certainly have made their contributions to the hobby but there has been no progress towards improving the selection of available sailing ships. I wonder whether those hobbyists sharing our interests have effectively communicated their desires and interests to the manufacturers.

Afterall, it appears that there is a market for sailing ship models at whatever the cost. We have only to look at the proliferation of the hugely expensive plank-on-bulkhead kits from Europe.  Given the popularity of those kits, it seems that there might be a commensurate interest in the expansion of the plastic sailing ship hobby. I therefore wrote to Hornby Hobbies to try and encourage them. I would love to see others do the same; I would also love to see us flood them with recommendations to let them know we exist!

I have enjoyed reading your comments throughout the forum!

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Posted by Vagabond_Astronomer on Wednesday, August 5, 2009 9:13 PM
EP,
First of all, let me say great job giving this old kit some dignity. It looks great.
I've had both the Airfix and Pyro versions of this kit a long time ago, and couldn't remember which one I preferred (I ended up never building either). So, this evening, whilst I should have been doing serious work, I looked for images and lucked into someone selling the old Pyro kit on eBay, and had photos of the kit (it was started). I also crossed referenced your photos and images of the sadly labelled Lindberg kit from their site. 
I have to be honest here, I think that the Lindberg kit has potential. The bulwarks have inside detail and the carvings look somewhat "right" (I hesitate to use "correct"). The sails, of course, have to go into the bin, perhaps the masts as well (with me that's a certainty), but the hull and its fittings look good.
Years ago, my friend ran a specialized hobby shop out of his business. They carried OOP and hard to find stuff, all plastic. He had the Aurora kit. I managed to look at the hull and remember that it looked so exquisite, but the rest of the components were wrapped in tissue, so I was unable to look at anything else. Not sure how it would compare, but it looked nice enough.
As an aside, I can't help but notice that Pyro turned out a large number of sailing ship kits that seem to have reflected those found in Landstrom's "The Ship, though not all of them. I'm fairly certain that the Pyro Sovereign was very similar to his interpretation.
 
Rob
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Posted by Ausmosis on Thursday, August 6, 2009 5:17 AM

Beautiful work.... One day I'll attempt a sailng ship! :)

Thanks for sharing..

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