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  • Member since
    June 2006
Posted by Paul5910 on Saturday, April 7, 2007 4:41 PM

I sure would like to see some pictures of that beautiful ship so far!  Good luck on the rigging too.

Paul

 

  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 7, 2007 9:50 AM
Thanks for the response. I am really looking forward to finishing the product and at first, I did do a little research but guess I wasn't in the right area. I certainly will give the books mentioned a shot and hopefully I will be able to complete this mission before I start my next lifetime (chuckle). Really am looking forward to future adventures with the site and models.
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    May 2003
  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Tuesday, April 3, 2007 10:13 PM

Welcome to the Forum!  You'll find lots of interesting stuff, and stuff that's valuable for your particular project, here.  The inhabitants, as you'll quickly find out, are eccentric but generally harmless.

I'll second GeorgeW's recommendations on sources for H.M.S. Victory.  The Heller instructions are miserable; the people who wrote them didn't understand how rigging works.  It is, in most respects, a beautiful and accurate kit, but it contains some really remarkable errors - mostly of omission.  The Heller designers apparently didn't understand, for instance, that yards are supposed to be fastened to masts.  And the English "translation" of the instructions that comes with the kit is hopeless; it apparently was written by somebody who neither understood French nor had attempted to build the model.  You're best advised to use the Heller instructions only as a guide to how the various pieces fit together, and rely on other sources for everything else - especially the rigging.

The Victory is one of the most thoroughly researched and documented model subjects in the world - the subject of several excellent books and at least four good, reliable sets of plans by outstanding draftsmen (Basil Lavis, R.W. Bugler, George Campbell, and John McKay).  I agree with GeorgeW:  if you need to pick one source, the one to get is Longridge's Anatomy of Nelson's Ships, which contains fold-out copies of the George Campbell drawings.  (The title notwithstanding, the book is actually a detailed description of how the author built a model of the Victory, on 1/48 scale, from scratch.)  The McKay drawings contain more detail than Mr. Campbell's, but Longridge provides a well-written, comprehensive verbal description of how to rig the model.  (Those rigging instructions are almost as applicable to the Heller 1/100 kit.)

If you do a search on the word "victory" in this Forum you'll find several threads that will be helpful - including lots of posts by folks who are working on the same model.

Good luck.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

  • Member since
    December 2006
  • From: Latvia, EU
Posted by Grahor on Tuesday, April 3, 2007 3:30 PM
If you are truly desperate, you can try e-donkey (or other peer-to-peer) network. For such a popular subject as HMS Victory, there are a lot of plans and information. You can find there plans from Mamoli and Jotika, as also a number of more anonimous plans and even some (not many) books.
  • Member since
    February 2006
  • From: The green shires of England
Posted by GeorgeW on Tuesday, April 3, 2007 2:05 PM

My initial inclination is to say throw away the Heller instructions, they are riddled with errors and guaranteed to drive you mad.

If you can, buy one or all of the following books:

The Anatomy of Nelson's Ships by C.N. Longridge

The 100 - gun ship Victory by John McKay

HMS Victory her Construction, Career, and Restoration. by Alan McGowan.

All currently in print.

These will provide all the information you will require, if I had to choose one it would be the C.N. Longridge book.

You may also wish to visit http://www.pete-coleman.com/forum/

a site dedicated to modelling the Heller Victory.

  • Member since
    November 2005
rigging???????????????
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 3, 2007 1:29 PM

Hello folks, got a question. Just purchased a model HMS Victory (1/100 version)from Heller (love these old ships) and the instructions are not quite clear on the rigging. Does anyone have any suggestions on the rigging aspects? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have worked on a lot of models so I guess you could classify me as an intermediate in this field. Saw this ship and really got interested and started on it and when I got to the rigging part, I got deadended. So, if anyone out there can help me on the rigging please let me know.

 

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