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Kearsarge Detail Question. Rondin Photos

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Kearsarge Detail Question. Rondin Photos
Posted by Leftie on Thursday, April 5, 2007 6:09 PM

 This maybe a lame question or two. I'm still new at knowing the parts of a 19th century ship. But if anyone can tell me what the parts "A" and "F" are it would help me with my 'accurate' 1864 Kearsarge' project. Is item 'A' a grate  or the handles for the capstan?

  And if anyone can tell me what these poles are(F), that would help also.

  As usual, thanks for your help.

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Posted by jtilley on Thursday, April 5, 2007 9:54 PM

Most interesting indeed.  I think F may be a rack of boarding pikes - though it seems unlikely that such weapons would be painted white, as they appear to be in the pictures.  A has me baffled.  The caption on the middle photo makes reference to a "cage around the capstan"; I can't recall having encountered such a thing.  I don't think it's a rack of capstan bars; as the holes in the capstan itself indicate, the capstan bars would be much heavier - and probably longer.  For a minute I thought it might be a rack of gadgets for handling shells.  The narrow parts at the ends might be handles, and the shells might fit in what appear to be holes in the "bars."  But shells for the guns of this ship would have been bigger than that.

Those are fascinating pictures, which emphasize just what an incredibly complicated project a really thoroughly detailed model of such a ship would be.  As usual with such pictures, much frustration comes from the fact that only one end of each rigging line is visible.  On the left side of the first picture, for instance, the lower end of a heavy piece of standing rigging is secured to the inside of the bulwark by an interesting iron fitting that seems to be a combination of a quick-release fitting and a turnbuckle.  I don't recall having bumped into such a fitting before.

This ship is really outside my period of greatest interest.  Maybe somebody else can help more.

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Posted by DanCooper on Friday, April 6, 2007 4:27 AM

Lol... sorry, I can't contibute any usefull information, but I really wanted to share the first impression I got from that first picture.

My first impression was that the "A" (not the part, the arrow is pointing at, but the actuall letter) was placed there to measure the size of that officer's belly Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by Grem56 on Friday, April 6, 2007 7:45 AM

Part A looks like some wooden gratings that have been placed upright against the capstan to me.

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Posted by steves on Friday, April 6, 2007 8:49 AM

I agree with Grem56.   There is a hatch immediately forward (and aft) of the capstan and 'A" appears to be the grating of the forward hatch leaning vetically aginst the capstan with the bottom towards the camera.   The "cage around the capstan", referred to in another picture, is actually awning frames erected around both hatches which bracket the capstan at the fore and aft ends but do not enclose it.   As for the rods racked along the bulwarks, like jtilley I think they are probably boarding pikes painted white.  In the modern navy the saying is "If it doesn't move paint it gray."   Perhaps in the old navy there were standing orders to paint anything on the bulwarks white, or it could have been the preference of the captain.

 

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Posted by CODY614 on Friday, April 6, 2007 11:15 AM

Mr. Tilley....

 http://www.civil-war.net/cw_images/files/images/054.jpg

Thats what they look like!...'Boarding Pikes".

As for the other...near the 'Capstan'...I was thinkingDunce [D)]...HeheheWink [;)]..That they are parts of the capstan,and attached when hauling in rope? They seem to be propotioned to fit 'Around' the capstan....Just a guess.

 

 

 

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Posted by Flitch on Saturday, July 14, 2007 3:55 AM
     Enlargements of these pictures shew that the items at "A" are two gratings, viewed from their underside and F is a "rack" of boarding pikes.  Best wishes Flitch. 
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