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Whats wrong with this picture?
Posted by EdGrune on Tuesday, July 3, 2007 9:58 PM

I'm not sure that SUBFIXER is allowed to play

WTF? Bow planes and fairwater planes? (same mistake on some of the color profiles inside)

Whats the 'break' in the hull red on the sonar dome, and the smiley face panel line?

No 'billboards' on the stern planes!

Hull number on an operational boat?  (Caption says that its the Pittsburgh (SSN720) launching TLAMS during Desert Storm).   DSRV targets?

Main valve heads -- should be located farther forward.  Overall seems too short forward of the sail.

Perhaps Don Greer should stick to drawing airplanes.   Use an appropriately-sized grain of salt if you intend to use this book as a reference

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Posted by aardvark1917 on Wednesday, July 4, 2007 4:43 AM
Egads! Yuck [yuck]

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Posted by CG Bob on Wednesday, July 4, 2007 11:32 AM
From the looks of the screw and "speed" bubbles trailing aft of the sail and control surfaces, the sub is running at about 1/2 ahead; I don't think they'd have the two 'scopes up and be firing a missile while at that speed.
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Posted by Mike F6F on Wednesday, July 4, 2007 2:18 PM
Lets give the artist a bit of a break.

Is the image lously? Yup. Should a bit of artistic leeway be allowed? Perhaps.

But underwater and underway photos of USN subs are, shall we say, somewhat hard to get. Besides, submarines in service are usually slimy, ugly looking things at best. Most models I've seen of submarines show the hull number and hatch markings and a clean, nice hull. I'm not surprised that the book's cover would be illustrated that way.

A more accurate image could have been used by the Squadron folks for a book that is intended for modelers to use as an accurate source, but I believe it wouldn't have been an interesting enough looking cover to attract book sales.

Just like the threads awhile back on box art, the line between accuracy to the model, or prototype, and an exciting, sales grabbing image, will always be a bit blurred, at best.

Mike

 

"Grumman on a Navy Airplane is like Sterling on Silver."

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Posted by rcboater on Wednesday, July 4, 2007 3:14 PM

 

If this was one of Squadron's Aircraft Books, and the cover had a painting of an aircraft with two sets of elevators, with numerous other errors as well, the book would be criticized to no end in the various forums. 

Aquadron publishes theses books with an implication of accuracy-- these aren't coffee table books meant to be looked at by the casual observer- they are sold as references for modelers.

Why should ship modelers settle for less?  We deserve the same level of competency  in the books Squadron publishes...

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Posted by samreichart on Wednesday, July 4, 2007 4:29 PM
why, it's a flightI/II/III, of course... Whistling [:-^]
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Posted by mfsob on Wednesday, July 4, 2007 10:31 PM
I have to side with rcboater on this one - if this was supposed to be a coffee table book, or one for "the rest of the general public" then a little artistic license would be OK, because it might help sell more books. But these books are not marketed to the general public, they are aimed squarely at a niche market - us. Modelers. Guys that have been known to be somewhat, ahem, anal about accuracy from time to time. Some moreso than others, but we all suffer from it - it's one of the things that makes us modelers. Squadron should know better than this.
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Posted by subfixer on Thursday, July 5, 2007 7:24 AM
Subfixer is POed because all he can see is the dreaded red X. Curses~!

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Posted by sumpter250 on Friday, July 6, 2007 11:40 AM

  So!.....You're saying this cover art is sub standard?

 

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Posted by CG Bob on Friday, July 6, 2007 12:16 PM

Maybe he was influenced by the (SSRN or USOS) SEAVIEW.

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