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A movie for review - Not bad

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  • Member since
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  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:25 AM

I had to read a review copy of a book called Hornblower's Ships a few years ago.  Frankly it was a rather depressing experience.

The "Grand Turk" was originally built for an Arnold Schwartzenneger fantasy movie that (perhaps mercifully) never got filmed.  In its original form it looked nothing like an eighteenth-century frigate - or any other real vessel that ever floated.  The Hornblower project people modified it as best they could, but the results still, to my notion, didn't pass muster.

Most of the scenes were shot with big-scale models.  They were built, under the supervision of an experienced British modeler (whose name I've forgotten at the moment, but who clearly did know what he was doing) by a team of workmen in the former Soviet Union who had never built a ship model in their lives.  (The project had a tight budget.  These unfortunate people were happy to get hired for, if I remember right, about $50.00 per week.)  The photos in the book made it clear that the models resembled real ships only generally, and the detail on them can most gently be described as highly simplified. 

Some of the filming of the first batch of episodes was done in Eastern Europe.  (My favorite photo in the book showed the machine that was used to generate "wind" to fill the models' sails:  a WWII Russian fighter's fuselage mounted on a farm cart, with the engine running full blast.)  When the British staff got fed up with the working conditions they moved the models to England; the later shots were done in a gigantic tank at one of the big British movie studios.

I'm a longtime Forester fan, but I had extremely mixed reactions to the films.  I thought Mr. Gruffud (I apologize if I've misspelled him) was perfectly cast, the acting in general was of high quality, the scenery was nice, the deviations from the original plotlines were stupid, and the ships were - well, pretty awful.  The building of those models provided desperately needed employment for some fine people.  Whether that consitutes generosity or exploitation depends, I guess, on one's point of view.  I have to say, though, that reading that book left me with no inclination to watch the rest of the series.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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  • From: The green shires of England
Posted by GeorgeW on Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:34 AM

Only two full sized ships were used in the making of the Hornblower series, The Grand Turk, the frigate replica, and a 1930s Baltic Trader. The rest were models built to various scales.

I saw the Grand Turk in Whitby Harbour a couple of years ago, she was specially built, but to my eye she is somewhat broad in the beam relative to her length to replicate a true eighteenth century frigate, but perhaps the filming needs dictate  certain requirements.

As regards 'To the ends of the earth', I agree with Big Jake, an excellent atmospheric production which I think gives all us 'armchair' sailors cause to review our daydreams of a long voyage on an old '74'

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  • From: Denver, Colorado
Posted by waynec on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:18 PM

and i believe the ship used in the hornblower series was the "hms rose" which was bought to become "hms surprise" and is now at the san diego maritime museum. was on board last october for NRG (Nautical Research Guild) convention.

btw this year the conference is in manitowoc, wi and is focusing on model building.

http://www.thenrg.org

 

 

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Posted by alumni72 on Sunday, July 15, 2007 3:24 AM
Interesting.  I really enjoyed the Horatio Hornblower series that the BBC put out a few years ago, with Ioain Gruffud.  No idea if that spelling is even close.  I wish they'd air that series again - I'd definitely watch it.
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A movie for review - Not bad
Posted by Big Jake on Friday, July 13, 2007 8:42 AM

Earlier this week I stopped buy the local movie rental place and saw a DVD movie that based on the cover and writeup did not seem too bad. It's' Titled "To the Ends of the Earth"  It is a BBC production.  Whats amazine to bascally is completely filmed "on Board the ship" ( in studio)  but they show the things that are normally glossed over in like movies, (sea sickness, leaking, dirt, and the general unvarnished life on a long journey)

http://www.amazon.com/Ends-Earth/dp/B000NJL4QC/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-9236925-9377628?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1184328633&sr=8-1

Amazon write up, and I agree 

To The Ends Of The Earth" is a visually impressive 3 part miniseries following the adventures of a young aristocrat Edmund Talbot, played by Benedict Cumberbatch. Billed as "an epic journey of self discovery," this 19th century drama follows Talbot as he boards a dilapidated war ship to make an ocean crossing. Having been assigned a government posting in Australia, Talbot is a haughty and opinionated youth that must learn to navigate not only a dangerous sea voyage, but the politics involved shipboard. Encountering death, possible mutiny, crew incompetence and brutality, an unlikely romance, passengers in search of guidance, and a heroism and leadership in difficult circumstances--this truly is the journey of Talbot's lifetime. Excellently staged and beautifully captured on film, these adventures range from harrowing to surprisingly moving. The claustrophobic and unsettling environment aboard the ship is used to maximum effect--the people on board are essentially like prisoners awaiting a release.

 

BTW the ship on the cover looks like the Mayflower, but the movie takes places in 1812 and on a former British ship of the link that was converted for passenger service to Austraila.  I guess the Mayflower looked better?

Jake 

 

 

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