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Need advice--decal problem on a 1/350 Tico

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  • Member since
    November 2004
  • From: Freeport, IL USA
Posted by cdclukey on Thursday, September 6, 2007 10:44 AM

 mfsob wrote:
Try the window route, it costs you nothing but some time, and the decals are the last thing to go on anyway. One thing I learned the hard way when doing that, make sure the decal sheet is not directly touching the window, because if any condensation forms, guess where your decals will end up? I "offset" my decal sheets by putting a couple of thin strips of brown corrugated cardboard between them and the window glass.

I guess you're right...and at the speed I build, these decals will have plenty of time to get some rays!

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  • From: West Virginia, USA
Posted by mfsob on Thursday, September 6, 2007 9:12 AM
Try the window route, it costs you nothing but some time, and the decals are the last thing to go on anyway. One thing I learned the hard way when doing that, make sure the decal sheet is not directly touching the window, because if any condensation forms, guess where your decals will end up? I "offset" my decal sheets by putting a couple of thin strips of brown corrugated cardboard between them and the window glass.
  • Member since
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  • From: Freeport, IL USA
Posted by cdclukey on Thursday, September 6, 2007 12:36 AM

Dang, how come I didn't find those when I searched on hull numbers? Yeesh.

Well, if Bondo's method works, I'm good to go. If not, looks like I'm putting some decal sets on my Christmas list...:-)

  • Member since
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  • From: Freeport, IL USA
Posted by cdclukey on Thursday, September 6, 2007 12:32 AM

Bondo, let me throw you a question:

I've taken the sheet in its current condition and tested a couple of decals from it, and they didn't even budge off the paper. Does that change your advice, or should I just not worry about it and get those suckers on the Window?

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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 8:09 AM
 cdclukey wrote:

I can replace the hull numbers with a sheet from Gold Medal, but most of the markings for the AEGIS are not on the GMM naval markings sheet. I'm expecting that the absence of the plimsoll numbers and the warning rings (somebody give me the real name of those bloody things, please) around the weapons systems would be particularly glaring. What would you guys advise I do about the rest of it? Scan it in and try to make a sheet of my own? Try to replicate them with paint? Suck it up and make the best replica I can with bare bones markings? It's not like it's going to be a contest build. Or is there a sheet on the market I don't know about?

But you have missed the obvious.   GMM, while excellent, is not the only game in town.

You have a couple of sets from Iron Shipwright

 

 

http://www.commanderseries.com/

or perhaps JAG. [these are their 1:700, but are also available in 1:350 - this is the art -- the black lines print white on the decal]

http://www.jagcollective.com/Ships_catalog.htm

or high & low viz hull numbers from Hawk Graphics

http://www.hawk-graphics.com/

  • Member since
    March 2007
  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, September 4, 2007 11:24 PM

First of all, yellow or brown is not a sign of water, it's caused by acid in the backing paper staining the carrier film. And it can be fixed. Expose the decals to direct sunlight, usually by taping them up in a window facing south, for a month. Just watch to make sure its not one that gets condensation. I prefer the living room. Try to kind of time it so that you use them in the next month or so after the initial 3-4 weeks it takes to bleach them. You'll be pleasantly surprised.

Scan them.

Then, run a test with a piece from the sheet you can live without and try to overcome the next test; breakup.

If you have breakup, which you probably will not, it gets hard.

If it's bad, you need to bind them with a couple of possibilities. Buy Microscale Decal solution and paint it on, wait a week and try it. I prefer spray with a laquer like dullcote or Glosscote from Testors.

Or , put a puddle of Future floor polish where it goes and pick the dissolved pieces into it w/ a toothpick.

Keep me posted, and I've generally survived these problems.

Bill

  • Member since
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  • From: Freeport, IL USA
Need advice--decal problem on a 1/350 Tico
Posted by cdclukey on Tuesday, September 4, 2007 10:53 PM

I'm finishing up an F-106 and the sea is calling again...

My next project is going to be a 1/350 Dragon USS Ticonderoga Aegis. It was passed down to me by my Grampy and is in outstanding condition except for the decals. Some moisture got in with them somehow and the whole sheet is compromised; on most of it there's a slight brown discoloration.

I can replace the hull numbers with a sheet from Gold Medal, but most of the markings for the AEGIS are not on the GMM naval markings sheet. I'm expecting that the absence of the plimsoll numbers and the warning rings (somebody give me the real name of those bloody things, please) around the weapons systems would be particularly glaring. What would you guys advise I do about the rest of it? Scan it in and try to make a sheet of my own? Try to replicate them with paint? Suck it up and make the best replica I can with bare bones markings? It's not like it's going to be a contest build. Or is there a sheet on the market I don't know about?

BTW, don't bother telling me to ask Dragon for another set. Tried it and got a half-intelligible apology over the phone from someone who could barely speak English. I'm on my own.

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