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cvn 65 painting question
Posted by kenny_conklin on Monday, October 15, 2007 7:44 AM
i am working on the cvn 65 big e , i am beginning to paint the hull i didnt use the recommended mixture of paints by tamiya but instead used tamiyas hull red it looks ok but i dont think it is the right color , does anyone know if the mixture tamiya gives comes out to be the correct color or is the hull red ok to use ?

thanks guys
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Posted by mfsob on Monday, October 15, 2007 8:37 AM
As far as below the waterline goes, what is "right" is what looks right to you. While obviously cherry red metalflake would not be a good choice, pretty much any dull, flat red would be fine. I used Floquil Boxcar Red on my Big E update because, ummmmm, it was marked down and on sale at the hobby shop. Testors flat red out of the rattle can is much too bright (my first attempt at a full hull model demonstrated that) but other than that, go with what the instructions suggest for mixing the paints.
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Posted by EdGrune on Monday, October 15, 2007 8:39 AM

Tamiya's Hull Red is a brown which is more correct for WWII IJN applications.

Modern USN Hull Red is more of a red-orange color than brown.   My favorite hull red is American Tradition Red Primer available in the jumbo economy-sized rattlecan from the local Lowes.

In modeling-sized paints, White Ensign's Norfolk 65 hull red is good (it is enamel).   In acrylics  The MM Acryl II Marine line of paints is correct also.   Some will recommend a 50/50 mix of Insignia Red and Flat Black

Many of the model railroad boxcar reds are good too.   Mineral Red is good, as is red zinc-chromate

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Posted by kenny_conklin on Monday, October 15, 2007 8:43 AM

thanks mfsob

the hull red by tamiya is pretty dull i may just keep it then instead of mixing

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Posted by kenny_conklin on Monday, October 15, 2007 9:04 AM
thanks ed maybe i will be mixing up some paint then lol
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Posted by Wilbur Wright on Monday, October 15, 2007 5:57 PM

Kenny, I used Tamiya hull red on my Tamiya Big E, and it looks fine. Its the centerpiece of my model room in fact. I also used all the GMM sets available at the time (1993-4, I believe)

 

I believe I used MM enamel  light or dark ghost gray for the superstructure.

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Posted by kenny_conklin on Monday, October 15, 2007 6:17 PM
thanks wilbur i am gonna order the GMM set for her
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Posted by Careos on Monday, October 15, 2007 6:50 PM

I'm sure these don't help, but there was a nice Big E on display in DC when I was there....

 

http://picasaweb.google.com/jsharpcsa/WashingtonDC/photo#5112453601253127554

http://picasaweb.google.com/jsharpcsa/WashingtonDC/photo#5112453635612865938 

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Posted by kenny_conklin on Monday, October 15, 2007 7:22 PM

careos actually that does help . the 2nd photo shows the hull color pretty good and that is pretty close to the hull red by tamiya.

thank you all for your help on the subject

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Posted by prowannab on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 5:12 PM
 Hey Kenny i just read your post and thought i would get involved as i to am working the big e.I used american accents made by rust-oleum colonial red.Got it from hobby lobby for i think 3-5 bucks and it's 12 oz can .I feel the color come out right,since i'm not one for mixing paints and airbrushing.
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Posted by kenny_conklin on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 5:24 PM
thanks pro , i have been keeping up with your build how is she going ?
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Posted by prowannab on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 5:36 PM
Pretty good the ship itself is actually complete but still working on the dio part of it.Iwas going to post some pics to pick yalls brain but ran out of time leaving to take the little on to dance class.Maybe later tonight i can get those pics up,i'm really needing some feedback on my prop wash.
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Posted by kenny_conklin on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 5:49 PM
cool i cant wait to see it pro
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Posted by martys2483 on Wednesday, November 7, 2007 9:42 PM

hey kenny,

 I am building the "E" too. I mixed the Tamiya acrylics per the instructions. It came out looking like yours! A coat of gloss and it should look good. My question is how to paint a righteous waterline. I can't seem to mask it straight. Can anyone out there help out a beginner. Are you guys adding hangar decks and all that? I had already put my flight deck on when I saw some photos of that 16' model. That sure is cool!! I did ok on the GMM photo etch though. I was pretty proud for a beginner or noob in gaming speak, lol!! But seriously any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Posted by subfixer on Thursday, November 8, 2007 12:37 AM
Why are you applying gloss to the hull?

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Posted by kenny_conklin on Thursday, November 8, 2007 5:19 PM
i just followed the lines and the water line came out fine by masking.
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Posted by kenny_conklin on Thursday, November 8, 2007 5:20 PM

 subfixer wrote:
Why are you applying gloss to the hull?

same question no need to gloss the bottom it should be flat  

 

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Posted by ps1scw on Friday, November 9, 2007 6:08 PM
 Careos wrote:

I'm sure these don't help, but there was a nice Big E on display in DC when I was there....

 

http://picasaweb.google.com/jsharpcsa/WashingtonDC/photo#5112453601253127554

 

http://picasaweb.google.com/jsharpcsa/WashingtonDC/photo#5112453635612865938 

 

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Posted by Shellback on Saturday, November 10, 2007 4:40 PM

 Hi Ken !

 Any updated pictures ?

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Posted by kenny_conklin on Saturday, November 10, 2007 5:45 PM
no actuall went to the LHS toda to pic up some stuff i will have some pics soon then i will through a patry :)
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Posted by Shellback on Sunday, November 11, 2007 12:34 AM

 kenny_conklin wrote:
no actuall went to the LHS toda to pic up some stuff i will have some pics soon then i will through a patry :)

 Good Ken , I like a Patry  Party [party]..........Wink [;)]

 

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