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  • Member since
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  • From: Weymouth, Dorset, UK
Posted by chris hall on Friday, February 1, 2008 2:29 PM

Another thing is that it's important to spray the model with matt varnish after you've installed the etch. Hides the superglue stains! Whistling [:-^]

Cheers,

Chris. 

 

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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Friday, February 1, 2008 12:50 PM

 mfsob wrote:
As to how you paint the stuff ... I don't own an airbrush. In 1/700 scale, at least, most spray paints will clog the fine details on things like PE railings, so I generally hand paint.

Thin the paint properly for an airbrush and spray light coats.   Haven't had problems doing it that way.   Run into problems when I'ver tried to spray too thick paint and done several thick coats

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  • From: Spartanburg, SC
Posted by subfixer on Friday, February 1, 2008 11:03 AM
 EdGrune wrote:

What Dread said ...

In addition, I give my PE a bath in lacquer thinner to help cut the skin oils which have accumulated while fondling the stuff

You fondle your PE, too? I thought that I was the only weirdo out here.

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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  • From: West Virginia, USA
Posted by mfsob on Friday, February 1, 2008 8:39 AM
As to how you paint the stuff ... I don't own an airbrush. In 1/700 scale, at least, most spray paints will clog the fine details on things like PE railings, so I generally hand paint.
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  • From: Huntsville AL
Posted by Comanche Test on Thursday, January 31, 2008 5:42 PM

Excellent - thanks.

Dan 

 Dreadnought52 wrote:
 Comanche Test wrote:

Follow-up question:  Do you use any kind of primer before painting, or sand the surface?  On bare metal like PE (relying on my small experience with auto body work), I'd think you would want to use an etching primer or sand lightly to give the final paint something to adhere to.  (I'm gathering info for my first PE set, on a Tamiya Fletcher-class destroyer.)  Thanks in advance.

Dan



Sanding can damage the fine etching too easily. That is what the white vinegar bath is for. Because vinegar acts like a mild acid it will give the brass a little (microscopically at least) extra tooth for the paint to stick to, at least that is the theory. My use of it seems to confirm that the paint (I use acrylics almost exclusively) will adhere better than without it. Some will use a primer but need to be careful that the ultimate thickness of paint and primer isn't too heavy. WS
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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Thursday, January 31, 2008 6:22 AM

What Dread said ...

In addition, I give my PE a bath in lacquer thinner to help cut the skin oils which have accumulated while fondling the stuff

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Posted by Dreadnought52 on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:06 PM
 Comanche Test wrote:

Follow-up question:  Do you use any kind of primer before painting, or sand the surface?  On bare metal like PE (relying on my small experience with auto body work), I'd think you would want to use an etching primer or sand lightly to give the final paint something to adhere to.  (I'm gathering info for my first PE set, on a Tamiya Fletcher-class destroyer.)  Thanks in advance.

Dan



Sanding can damage the fine etching too easily. That is what the white vinegar bath is for. Because vinegar acts like a mild acid it will give the brass a little (microscopically at least) extra tooth for the paint to stick to, at least that is the theory. My use of it seems to confirm that the paint (I use acrylics almost exclusively) will adhere better than without it. Some will use a primer but need to be careful that the ultimate thickness of paint and primer isn't too heavy. WS
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  • From: Huntsville AL
Posted by Comanche Test on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 10:19 PM

Follow-up question:  Do you use any kind of primer before painting, or sand the surface?  On bare metal like PE (relying on my small experience with auto body work), I'd think you would want to use an etching primer or sand lightly to give the final paint something to adhere to.  (I'm gathering info for my first PE set, on a Tamiya Fletcher-class destroyer.)  Thanks in advance.

Dan

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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:22 AM
 JO ATC wrote:

What color are people using for the Eduards 1/350 Missouri set?

Railings & misc details (life rings, floats, etc) are painted to match the camouflage applied to the bulkheads behind them

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Posted by JO ATC on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 10:47 AM

Thanks to you both for the quick response.

That helps a great deal.

 

What color are people using for the Eduards 1/350 Missouri set?

 

 

John

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Posted by Dreadnought52 on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 10:39 AM
 JO ATC wrote:

I am starting on my 1/350 Missouri (Tamiya)

This is my first attempt at applying PE......watch out

 Is PE supposed to be painted?

 I always thought PE went on last.  and remained brass......am i wrong

John

 

Post any pics please



As Ed said the best approach is to paint it beforehand and touch up after installation. I have found that the paint sticks better to the PE and has less handling damage if I wash it before painting in white vinegar. Rinse in clean water and be sure that it is completel dry before painting. WS
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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 10:21 AM
 JO ATC wrote:

I am starting on my 1/350 Missouri (Tamiya)

This is my first attempt at applying PE......watch out

 Is PE supposed to be painted?

 I always thought PE went on last.  and remained brass......am i wrong

John

 

Post any pics please

PE is almost always painted unless on a manufacturer's model where their intent is to demonstrate the extra hoohaas provided. 

I've found it easier to paint the PE while still attached to the fret,  cut, bend, apply, and hand-touchup any cracks/nicks.  

Others prefer to cut, bend, paint, & attach. 

Whatever works best for you.

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    January 2008
Painting and PE
Posted by JO ATC on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 10:14 AM

I am starting on my 1/350 Missouri (Tamiya)

This is my first attempt at applying PE......watch out

 Is PE supposed to be painted?

 I always thought PE went on last.  and remained brass......am i wrong

John

 

Post any pics please

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