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J Lloyd International Reissue of Lindberg 1:525 USS Yorktown

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  • Member since
    June 2006
  • From: Carmichael, CA
J Lloyd International Reissue of Lindberg 1:525 USS Yorktown
Posted by Carmike on Thursday, April 3, 2008 3:01 PM

Folks:

I purchased a Lindberg kit of the USS Yorktown around 1982 and later acquired additional parts to super-detail the kit but the hull was lost in a move two years ago and haven't been able to locate a replacement vintage Lindberg kit at a non-collector price.

So, I just purchased the re-issue (retail at just about $40 from my LHS, about 4x the price of the first kit) and first impression is that J Lloyd has done a nice job on the re-issue.  Like some of the last Lindberg reissues from Craft House, the motorizing components have been removed and the instruction sheets cleaned up.  Nice bonuses: a cardboard hangar deck insert (that I'll use to make a template for a plastic deck), a decal sheet that includes wing insignia for the F6F Hellcats, and the correct decals for the Yorktown (the original kit had decals for CV-5, the  USS Yorktown of the Enterprise class that was sunk at the battle of Midway, rather than CV-10 of the Essex class).  The sprues have been cleanly molded with very little flash and very few injection pin marks.

Other than that, the kit still has the limitations of the original mold including oversize 20mm singles and 40mm quads among other details, but have solutions for most of the problems including 40mm quads from a Revell Missouri kit, 5"/38 twin mounts from a Renwal kit, and some F4U Corsairs from a Revell Midway to add to the air group on deck.

Other than the cost of the kit (which seems high to me for a vintage mold compared to more recent products), J Lloyd seems to have a nice job with this kit and am looking forward to getting it built.

Mike         

  • Member since
    May 2003
  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Thursday, April 3, 2008 6:38 PM

It's an interesting kit, and a grand exercise in nostalgia.

If I remember correctly (a highly questionable proposition these days), it originally appeared in the early fifties with the name Wasp.  I don't know the exact date.  Revell's Franklin D. Roosevelt, according to Dr. Graham's history of Revell, was originally released in 1954.  One of these two must have the distinction of being the first plastic aircraft carrier kit. 

[Later edit:  I may be wrong about that.  The British company Eaglewall was making 1/1200 British and German waships at about that time, and I think that range may have included an Ark Royal.  Can any British Forum members shed light on that?]  [Still later edit:  I found a website for Eaglewall kit collectors:    http://www.shipmodels.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/default.htm  It says the company did make an H.M.S. Victorious, but apparently not an Ark Royal.  The dates are rather vague; it looks, though, like the bigger Revell and Lindberg kits did come earlier.  Does anybody know the actual initial release date of the Lindberg Wasp?]

The Lindberg one has been reissued many times - including that phoney "CV-5" version.  (I do wonder whether the people running the company at that time honestly didn't know that there were two WWII carriers named Yorktown.  Quite a few people have trouble understanding that.  For a while Pyro was selling a 1/1200 CV-5 Yorktown-class carrier with the name "Lexington" on it!)  I'm pretty sure the cardboard hangar deck was included in the original kit.  I think the motorizing gear was too, but I'm not sure.  I think the original price was either $2.00, $2.49, or $3.00.

In terms of accuracy and detail, of course, it doesn't come close to modern standards.  The underwater hull is a long way from reality - and, if I remember correctly, it has two rudders.  (Every Essex-class ship had only one.)  I suspect there's a legitimate explanation for that:  in the early fifties the hull lines of up-to-date Navy ships were still classified.  (That's undoubtedly at least part of the explanation for the flat bottoms on so many of Revell's and Aurora's early warship efforts.)

By comparison with the competetition, it was a formidable kit.  Those 20mm guns may be oversized and oddly shaped, but the very fact that they're there, as individual pieces, puts the kit in a different league from, for instance, the Revell Iowa-class battleship (which is on just about the same scale - and which the company is still selling).  Lindberg was the only company in those days that figured its customers could handle all those little parts.  And that big tree full of Hellcats was enough to make a purchaser's jaw drop.  (The instructions advised the modeler to chop off the outer wing panels on a lot of them and glue the wings back in the folded position.)  I think Lindberg may have been aiming at a more sophisticated clientele than Revell was.  This old kit pretty clearly was intended for adults, or high schoolers at the very least.

There's no way this old thing can compete with the latest from Dragon or Trumpeter (or event he old Hasegawa Essex-class kits).  But it's a noteworthy part of modeling history.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

  • Member since
    July 2006
  • From: Philippines
Posted by constructor on Friday, April 4, 2008 2:29 AM
It's nice to read about reissues. Models we grew up with. You are right. I did have a USS Wasp before with a cardboard hangar deck. I hope the new model makers like Trumpeter come out with thier version of the old classics but in 350 scale
  • Member since
    May 2003
  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Friday, April 4, 2008 11:46 AM
Trumpeter does make several Essex-class carriers in 1/350 scale.  They've gotten good reviews; apparently they're excellent kits - but far out of my price range.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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