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USS Independence Forrestal Class CV-62 ?

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  • Member since
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  • From: Akron, OH
USS Independence Forrestal Class CV-62 ?
Posted by Zellars on Saturday, April 19, 2008 11:53 AM

I am planing a build of the USS Independence CV-62 at 1/350th, circa 1960. At the moment I am studying drawings I got from the Floating Drydock. These drawings are of the USS Ranger CV-61, circa 1978. I have been having trouble using them to scale (I know you aren't supposed to scale a drawing) because they have stretched/shrank over the years and I would feel more confident of my scaling if I had some concrete numbers to compare against.

I was wondering if any forum members serverd on board the Independence or any of the Forrestal class carriers and could answer some questions. I am trying to determine with some certainty the hight of the flight deck which I think was 97 feet from the base line(keel) and the hangar deck or any of the decks for that matter.

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  • From: Spartanburg, SC
Posted by subfixer on Monday, April 21, 2008 5:21 AM
I served on the Ranger (CVA-61) from 1972-1975, she differed (among other things) from the other Forrestals in that she retained her forward gun sponsons (the guns had been removed by the time I was onboard). That is the main superficial difference that I can remember without doing some research. The three others in the class had their sponsons removed because in the Atlantic where they operated the sponsons were a liability in heavy seas. Ranger was a Pacific based ship. If I recall, the flight deck was about 60 feet above the waterline and the hangar deck was about 30 feet. The navigation bridge (08 level) was 90 feet.

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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  • From: Akron, OH
Posted by Zellars on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 7:12 PM

Subfixer, I wanted to get back to you and thank you for your information. I am looking at the outboard profile starboard drawing from the BOGP of the USS Ranger circa 1978. I got these drawings from the Floating Drydock. The flight deck shows a dimension of 97 feet from baseline and the Nav.Bridge - level 08 shows 127 feet.

There is nothing called out for the hangar deck but your recollection agrees pretty well with what I measure at 60.5 feet. I arived at that number by scaling the distance from the flight deck to base line. On the drawing this distance scales an average of 6.25 inches. The hangar deck scales 3.9 inches. So I took 97/6.25 x X/3.9 and cross multiplied and X came out to 60.53 feet.

Regarding the gun sponsons, my brother served on the Independence CV-62 in 1960. He said the reasons they removed the 5 inch guns was that the wings of twin engine bomber the A-3 over hung so far they interfered.

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  • From: Spartanburg, SC
Posted by subfixer on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 5:33 AM
We carried A-3s also and flew them off both the waist cats and bow cats. I don't remember any other explanation other the one I stated earlier, that the sponsons were a liability in very heavy seas. Maybe if the five inch gun mounts were still installed it might be a problem with the A-3s, I don't know. We still had the four five inchers mounted aft when I was onboard as late as 1975.

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Posted by Jim A. on Saturday, January 23, 2016 11:08 PM
If you still have questions, I'll try to help. I was on Indy from 92 to 97. Jim
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  • From: san francisco,ca
Posted by raider-hall on Sunday, January 24, 2016 12:34 PM

These are two scratch builted Forrestal class papercard/plastic 1/350 builds I did years ago. One is the Ranger the other Indy.

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  • From: san francisco,ca
Posted by raider-hall on Friday, April 27, 2018 9:24 PM

  Planing on building a 1/350 from the Trumpeter Kitty Hawk hull. I just gotten in the mail yesterday the Shapeways 1/350 Indy island. Steve Larson design the island. Anyway old photos of 1/350 sratchbuilted Ranger and Indy from papercard.

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Posted by Next on Saturday, December 2, 2023 1:16 PM

What division were you in Jim? I was in V-4 division from Feb 93 - Jun 95

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