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NEW 1/350 Kongo, Haruna and Ise!!!!!

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NEW 1/350 Kongo, Haruna and Ise!!!!!
Posted by searat12 on Sunday, June 1, 2008 8:59 AM

I was snooping around on Hobblink Japan, and they are announcing some splendid new ships!!  First is a 1/350 Kong, but this time by Aoshima, but not to be outdone, Fujimi is going to release not ONLY a 1/350 Haruna, but ALSO a 1/350 Ise, in her late-war AC guise!!!!!  Here's the link....

http://www.hlj.com/hlj_gallery2/v/shizuoka08/naval/

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Posted by flyguy on Sunday, June 1, 2008 11:24 PM
If Aoshima is releasing a Kongo ,It had better be great ! I recieved my 1/350th Kongo by Fujimi last thursday, and it has to be seen to be believed! I've never seen detailing so fine. Some of the pieces are so delicate I'm worried if I can get them off the sprue even with my razor saw! This one will even give the aftermarket guys fits trying to come up with something they can add. To me, it looks like I'll only be needing railing and inclined ladders. I refuse to pay another eighty bucks for their brass after what I had to pay for the kit. Spares box here I come!  Cheers!
Grit yer teeth an' grin !!!
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Posted by searat12 on Monday, June 2, 2008 11:37 AM
Yup, I agree!  I will snoop around on ebay and see if I can find some cheap railings, but that's about it!  Curious they decided to produce 'Haruna' as well, as i would have thought 'Kirishima' the more famous ship....... As I already have the Fujimi 'Kongo,' I won't be getting the one by Aoshima, but I might be thinking long and hard about that 'Ise!'  Who knows what else will be coming up?  It sure would be nice to see a few more cruisers, both Japanese and US......
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Posted by constructor on Tuesday, June 3, 2008 9:13 PM
Wow! Do I see a naval battle in the offing?
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Posted by warshipguy on Wednesday, June 4, 2008 6:35 PM

So where can I get the Fujimi Kongo?

Bill Morrison

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Posted by tachikawa on Wednesday, June 4, 2008 6:49 PM

HobbyLink Japan has it in-stock for $157.08 plus about $51 for shipping.

Greatmodels has it in-stock for $181.25 plus $7.95 for Fed-Ex or UPS Ground shipping.

 

 

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Posted by warshipguy on Wednesday, June 4, 2008 7:03 PM

Thanks! I'll check it out.

Bill Morrison

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Posted by searat12 on Saturday, June 7, 2008 9:00 AM

I will be very interested to see some sort of comparison between the Aoshima 1/350 Kongo, and the Fujimi 1/350 Kongo.  I have the Fujimi version now, and I am so impressed that I would think it very hard for the Aoshima version to be appreciably better.  The Fujimi Kongo can be had from Free Time Hobbies (in Georgia) for $169, which appears to be cheaper than prices quoted for the Aoshima version, and on Ebay you can get the Fujimi Kongo for $165, plus $15 shipping.... It really is a superb kit!!!  Frankly, I find it a bit surprising that Aoshima came out with this, when it is already available from Fujimi (along with a 'Haruna' now as well), and would have made more sense to produce a 'Kirishima,' or 'Hiei.'  Apparently, these guys are all pretty secretive about what they have in design, and don't talk to each other much (trying to get a 'scoop' on each other!). 

Too bad!  You know what might make a lot of sense?  Instead of these guys working so hard to compete with one another, if they got together and 'divyed up' the market a bit (i.e. Fujimi concentrates on battleships, Hasegawa concentrates on aircraft carriers, Aoshima does cruisers, etc), they might ALL make a lot of money without stepping on each others toes!

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Posted by warshipguy on Sunday, June 8, 2008 4:40 PM

I agree that it would be an interesting idea for the manufacturers to plan their products jointly in order to expand their offerings to us, the customers. Afterall, how many Bismarcks, Yamatos, etc. do we need? But, it will be interesting to see whether Fujimi and Aoshima produce the same variant of the Kongo, i.e. whether their releases represent the ship at the same point in her long career. It would be great if one of them represents the ship as built!

Bill Morrison

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Posted by searat12 on Sunday, June 8, 2008 7:49 PM
From what I understand, BOTH represent 'Kongo' in 1944.......
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Posted by warshipguy on Monday, June 9, 2008 12:39 PM

I guess the only thing for it is to lament the manufacturer's lack of imagination concerning the possibilities open to them.  I love that they are expanding their product lines; I lament that they are duplicating their efforts.

Bill Morrison

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Posted by aardvark1917 on Monday, November 17, 2008 12:33 PM
And now they have a Kongo book to help make your creation more detailed.

Seeing as how there hasn't been a book on the Kongo for a few years, this is a gosh-send.

"Freedom is a possession of inestimable value." -- Marcus Tullius Cicero

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Posted by Chuck Fan on Monday, November 17, 2008 12:51 PM

The word on ther street is while Fujimi version of Kongo is somewhat better quality, Aoshima version is much more accurate.   Notably Fujimi got the basic hull shape wrong, and it is clearly menifested in the wrong shape of the secondary gun embrasures on either side of the hull.

 

 

 

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Posted by Chuck Fan on Monday, November 17, 2008 1:02 PM

 searat12 wrote:
From what I understand, BOTH represent 'Kongo' in 1944.......

 

Yes, and Aoshima has also released a 1/350 Kirishima in 1942 fit.  That ship didn't make it to 1944.   The only one of the 4 Kongos still missing would be Hiei.   Hiei is probably being saved for last because she was substantially different from her 3 sisters.    

Fujimi has also released testshot of a 1/350 Shukaku, ETA unknown, while persistent rumor swills around about a 1/350 Fuso to be expected from Aoshima in 2009.    Tamiya has anounced a 1/350 Mogami hybrid cruiser for 03/2009, with pure cruiser versions to follow.    Fine Mold has announced a new IJN Fubuki destroyer in 1/350.   While Skywave has announced a new IJN LST, also in 1/350.

 If you are an IJN modeler, this is a time of extraordinary plenty.   If you are interested in 1/350 models of something else, it is time to clamor really hard for equal treatment.

 

 

 

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Posted by searat12 on Monday, November 17, 2008 1:55 PM
Just curious, how is the Fujimi's 'basic hull shape wrong' in comparison with the Aoshima version?  And how could the Fujimi kit be of 'better quality,' while the Aoshima kit is 'more accurate?'  Shouldn't the two go hand in hand?  Perhaps I will find out when the Aoshima Kirishima arrives (got on pre-order now).
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Posted by warshipbuilder on Monday, November 17, 2008 2:26 PM
"If you are interested in 1/350 models of something else, it is time to clamor really hard for equal treatment."

Too bloody right!

I'm sick to death of Jap & USN stuff. None of these ships appeal to me in the slightest.

Everyone's raving on about the $500 1/350 AKAGI - Me? I'd never bleedin' 'eard of it before now!

Gimme some WW2 RN stuff instead.
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Posted by searat12 on Monday, November 17, 2008 3:20 PM
Not sure what you are going on about, but there is a 1/350 Prince of Wales, King George V, HMS Hood, and the latest coming out very soon is a HMS Repulse, so it's not like the RN has been completely ignored (though I would like to see an HMS Furious, a couple British cruisers, and maybe a destroyer or two).  Trumpeter also released the French battleship 'Richelieu' this year as well!  I think the only major navy that has so far been largely ignored is the Italian, and even there, you can get a 1/350 'Pola' heavy cruiser.... Plenty more coming, and it is likely to bring some more RN stuff too...... You really SHOULD know about the Akagi, as this carrier, along with the rest of Admiral Nagumo's group, not only blasted the US at Pearl Harbor, but swept the Indian Ocean clean of British warships and freighters, bombed the crap out of Trincomalee, and bombed Darwin, Australia as well!
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Posted by Tracy White on Monday, November 17, 2008 8:24 PM
Being a Royal Navy snob means never having to acknowledge any other ship as significant, even if it smacked a ship of her majesty around. Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Chuck Fan on Monday, November 17, 2008 10:46 PM

 searat12 wrote:
Just curious, how is the Fujimi's 'basic hull shape wrong' in comparison with the Aoshima version?  And how could the Fujimi kit be of 'better quality,' while the Aoshima kit is 'more accurate?'  Shouldn't the two go hand in hand?  Perhaps I will find out when the Aoshima Kirishima arrives (got on pre-order now).

The cutback on the side of Fujimi's hull is inclined, so the embrasures for the secondary gun casemates had to be trapazoidal in shape.   In reality they were verticle, so the casemate embrasures were rectangular.  Unfortunately this is a hard error for the average modeler to correct.  Fujimi got it wrong in defiance of all photographic evidence, Aoshima got it right. 

But the word on the street is all the details on the Fujimi model are more crisply molded, and were it not for the conspicuous error with the hull side cut back and embrasure shape,  would have been a better model.

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Posted by Chuck Fan on Monday, November 17, 2008 10:48 PM

 warshipbuilder wrote:
"If you are interested in 1/350 models of something else, it is time to clamor really hard for equal treatment."

Too bloody right!

I'm sick to death of Jap & USN stuff. None of these ships appeal to me in the slightest.

 

You are outnumbered.

 

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Posted by davros on Tuesday, November 18, 2008 2:27 AM

 Tracy White wrote:
Being a Royal Navy snob means never having to acknowledge any other ship as significant, even if it smacked a ship of her majesty around. Big Smile [:D]

HIS majesty at the time.

 

From the birthplace of the Kongo

Dave Ross 

 

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Posted by warshipbuilder on Tuesday, November 18, 2008 4:33 PM
Trumpeter's 1/350 Repulse is still vapourware!

Prinz Eugen is nowhere to be seen.

Where's Scharnhorst? Graf Spee? Nelson? A Tribal Class? HMS Suffolk?Ark RToyal, Victorious etc etc?

All we are getting are kingos, kongos, kangos, Mitsus Mutsus Matsus, Metsus Akagis, Shokus Shakus Shikus Minogsd Mongos Mangos and bugger-all else!

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Posted by searat12 on Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:34 PM
Prinz Eugen is due out in early 2009 (March, I believe).  You will have to wait on Repulse.  It appears the only outfit doing anything other than Japanese stuff in any quantity is Trumpeter (they are the ones bringing out Repulse), so you will have to send them an email with your request (send several, and quote Finescale while you are at it!).  I guess the main reason they haven't made many British RN subjects is because they either sank, blew up, or didn't do anything of note, and they hate to rub it in!
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Posted by Chuck Fan on Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:12 PM

 searat12 wrote:
Prinz Eugen is due out in early 2009 (March, I believe).  You will have to wait on Repulse.  It appears the only outfit doing anything other than Japanese stuff in any quantity is Trumpeter (they are the ones bringing out Repulse), so you will have to send them an email with your request (send several, and quote Finescale while you are at it!).  I guess the main reason they haven't made many British RN subjects is because they either sank, blew up, or didn't do anything of note, and they hate to rub it in!

 The might-have-been is cooler than what actually was.  So because we style ourselves "the good guys", we have to suffer the indignity of seeing that the the bad guy's ships cooler than our own.          

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Posted by kapudan_emir_effendi on Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:31 PM

 searat12 wrote:
Prinz Eugen is due out in early 2009 (March, I believe).  You will have to wait on Repulse.  It appears the only outfit doing anything other than Japanese stuff in any quantity is Trumpeter (they are the ones bringing out Repulse), so you will have to send them an email with your request (send several, and quote Finescale while you are at it!).  I guess the main reason they haven't made many British RN subjects is because they either sank, blew up, or didn't do anything of note, and they hate to rub it in!

do you include Warspite into your definition !!!???

Don't surrender the ship !
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Posted by Nelson Ott on Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:52 PM

 warshipbuilder wrote:


Where's Scharnhorst? Graf Spee? Nelson? A Tribal Class? HMS Suffolk?Ark Royal, Victorious etc etc?

All we are getting are kingos, kongos, kangos, Mitsus Mutsus Matsus, Metsus Akagis, Shokus Shakus Shikus Minogsd Mongos Mangos and bugger-all else!

 

I haven't heard anything wiser for a long time. Thanks Warshipbuilder !!

And please don't forget WWI too.

 Nelson

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Posted by searat12 on Wednesday, November 19, 2008 3:34 PM
 kapudan_emir_effendi wrote:

 searat12 wrote:
Prinz Eugen is due out in early 2009 (March, I believe).  You will have to wait on Repulse.  It appears the only outfit doing anything other than Japanese stuff in any quantity is Trumpeter (they are the ones bringing out Repulse), so you will have to send them an email with your request (send several, and quote Finescale while you are at it!).  I guess the main reason they haven't made many British RN subjects is because they either sank, blew up, or didn't do anything of note, and they hate to rub it in!

do you include Warspite into your definition !!!???

Sure!  How many ships did Warspite sink in WW2?  Warspite had perhaps the most distinguished career of any Royal Navy ship of the 20th century. She suffered severe damage at Jutland and nearly foundered (she was hit by at least 15 heavy shells). She lost 14 dead and 32 wounded, firing a total of 259 shells. In World War II, she took part in many battles, including Narvik, Cape Matapan, Crete, and Salerno, where she was hit by a glider bomb. She was never fully repaired, and became a coastal bombardment ship, covering the Normandy landings, and further operations in other parts of France.

As I said, sank, blew up, or didn't do anything of note!  Warspite NEARLY sank at Jutland, got pounded by a German glider bomb, and then just took up dockyard space until Normandy.....Actually, I am far more impressed by HMS Renown, who at least took on two German battlecruisers and ran 'em both off (didn't sink either of them though!).....

 

It's fun to tease the Brits!

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Posted by searat12 on Wednesday, November 19, 2008 3:45 PM
I remember going about the HMS Invincible VSTOL, jump-jet carrier/through-deck-cruiser, whateveryouwanttocallit just before the Gulf War, and the crew was kind enough to allow me aboard and escorted me all over the ship, just because I showed the crewman at the gangway my military ID!  Very nice little ship, but tiny compared to any carrier in the uS Navy (I heard some rumors a year or two ago that Britain was thinking about buying a couple new Nimitz-class carriers from the US, but I haven't heard any more since...)
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Posted by warshipbuilder on Wednesday, November 19, 2008 4:23 PM
Thru-deck cruiser? 1/350?

Here's an interview with an Airfix rep - HMS Illustrious is mentioned towards the end of the interview.

There's also an interview with a Revell rep, who mentions the new Revell 1/350 Tirpitz due next year, and with 45% new parts on the sprue.

http://www.hyperscale.com/what%27s.htm

Hit the vid links and take a look.

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Posted by Chuck Fan on Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:38 PM
 searat12 wrote:

Sure!  How many ships did Warspite sink in WW2?

 

3 directly, and 5 others by influence, all bonafide warships, at Narvik.

A body count not rivaled by many other battleships.

 

 

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